Yay yay yay yay yay yay!!!! Since Anna and Elsa weren't included, Pocahontas is my second favorite princess behind Mulan, and November is my birthday month ^_^ Also, I think she represents the month really well.

Hahaha! Isn't it fitting? A Native American princess in the month of November, like Thanks-Giving! To bad the real Pocahontas did not live to see Thanksgiving... Shame that she's been reduced to a character that is not herself, and instead glamorized as some-- romantically involved supposedly "empowered" sex icon! Shame that Disney has trotted their big boots over the tragic victim that was Pocahontas!



Yeah, I basically hate any idea that has to do with praising Disney's dishonest movie about Pocahontas that served no purpose, but to white-wash history to where it is no longer recognizable!

Sorry, this subject really ruffles my feathers. I'm your best friend until we linger on the History changing...

I usually say 'YAY' simply because I don't want to offend people that like her, but I want to express my opinion without feeling the need to be sensitive to others opinions... I'm sorry for my outburst. I simply could not hold it in any longer. Sorry, guys...


Nice "YAY!" icon by the way. :D

For anyone.

yaaaaay :D

YAAAAS.

@Olivia: The same thing happened with Tiana in TPATF. Tiana should have been a maid, cleaning Charlotte's house. That would have been historically accurate. That's one of the reasons why I don't like TPATF. White-washed history again. Pocahontas is number five on my list, but has never gone higher ( for historical inaccuracy). But TPATF is even more blatantly inaccurate!!! So it's lower on my list.

I don't like her, but I don't really have a motive to dislike the fact that she's the POTM.

8804 - You're missing the point of Olivia's comment: Pocahontas was a real person, Tiana isn't. Disney movies are almost NEVER historically accurate. Snow White isn't, Beauty and the Beast isn't, Frozen isn't. Honestly, you're just picking on PATF's lack of historical accuracy because you dislike/hate Tiana (not that's anything wrong with disliking her).

Here they took a real person and, truth to be told, they are sort of ruining her, because everyone now first thinks of the all-wise, womanly, adventurous cliff-jumping Disney princess when they hear "Pocahontas".

^^^ I realize the historical inaccuracy. That's why I don't have Pocahontas as my favorite, and likely never will. Tiana is drawn from American history, too. Perhaps Disney made a composite of individuals who worked during the 1920s as maids. That's where they came up with "Maddie." However, the lingering effects of racism and segregation in the South caused LOTS of criticism for TPATF while it was still in development, which Disney eventually tried to side-step ALTOGETHER, and came out with a very bogus "take'" on Blacks in the 1920s. I'm not hating on Tiana for this. But her movie is just as historically inaccurate as Pocahontas's. It does not reflect the deplorable conditions of Blacks in the Great Migration. Now when everyone thinks of 1920s, they'll think of Tiana the waitress, when the real Black women scrubbed toilets in houses, and did laundry for $0.75 -$1.00 a day.

8804 where are you getting your information from? From what I've researched, Blacks where definitely allowed to be waitresses in 1920s New Orleans. In fact it was on of the only occupations they COULD have, along with as you said, being a maid or manual labor. that's why it was such a big deal for her to get her own restaurant since it was so hard to do, considering the horrible wages she made. The movie showed explicitly that the job of a waitress was not glamorous in the slightest, considering the poor amount of money she was able to save up after years of work. It also showed how hard it was to even get a place for the restaurant, taking into account zoning and the fact that people in the area would not like a Black woman to own a restaurant. What more would you have liked them to do?

In fact, if they went by your ideas it would be even MORE racist and insensitive: the idea that this was all these people could do, that they all did the same thing no matter what, completely taking away any individuality and lumping them together as a group. And Maddie would have been a horrible name in my opinion, considering how close it is to Mammy, an Uncle Tom like moniker.

I, for one, really like Pocahontas, despite the historical inaccuracies. It's still a fun movie.

!!!

Don't agree with 8804. Pocahontas is the desecration of an actual character. Tiana is not. And black women COULD have waitress jobs in the 1920s.

^This. Plus, peple won't they'll think of Tiana the waitress, when the real Black women scrubbed toilets in houses, and did laundry for $0.75 -$1.00 a day because:
1) She didn't have the same cultural impact as Pocahontas.
2) The notion that the entire Southern segregation that lasted until the 60's will be forgotten is ridiculous. One thing is a minor Historical figure, another, completely different, is an important, shameful period of the History of the world's currently most powerful country.

Though, I have to say I think PATF would have been better if Disney had not tried to cater to everyone's prejudgemental demands and told the story of Maddy (the actual spelling of the original name, not "Maddie"), the chambermaid as they had initially planed.

Yay, for Pocahontas <3 November is the perfect month for her!