They have both been bad friends and they have both been amazing friends - one of the things i love about Breyton they are suited for each other! What Breyton will do for each other is amazing - awww man they are both so AWESOME!

peyton's a great friend..!
i don't even get it why people say she isn't. :(

Peyton has always been a sincere friend to Brooke and nobody should say that she isn't.

^ me either totally -sugar

love love sarahs comment 100% agree! :)

It really piss me off when some fans constantly say that Peyton is an awful friend because what happened in season1. Peyton has done some many things that showed that she is a great friend. Let's see how bout telling off bitchtoria when she was demeaning her daughter. Or how bout last week when Peyton saved Brooke's clothes from the girls on the street. I love Breyton they are such great friends. For those of you who pick no she is an awful friend I would like an example and not the one from season 1 or 3.

Brace yourself dermer. Prepare to get bombarded with classics such as "she got mad at Brooke for the sex tape," "she should have pushed Brooke for the stairs thing," "sshe stole Luke in season 4 and caused BL to break up when she said 'thanks for the sex'" "she hung out with Luke at the start of season 4" "she wasn't there for the attack" (trust me. I've heard that one before

Yeah, all of these are CRAPPY reasons why Peyton is a bad friend. Totally agree with dermer and sarah.

oh I will. those really don't qualify her as a bad friend. I don't know why they are blaming Peyton for not being their that is so damn stupid.

no one is perfect they have both done wrong but they are both great friendas to eachother

Yes I really hate it because Peyton has done all these nice things for Brooke:
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ohh and the list goes on and on...just because you like Peyton doesnt change the fact that she is not a good friend. Peyton has hurt Brooke more than anyone else on the show! I can never get over the cheating in S1 and S3. What kind of bff does sucha thing?
And what pissed me even more was that she did it again to Lindsay!

dermer4ever, I know your a BL fan and a Peyton fan and I completely respect that, but why not those examples from S1 and S3? Those were the main reasons...Both times she went behind Brooke's back changed the whole dynamics of the show. Those are 2 pretty huge mistakes on Peyton's side.
I really forgave Peyton for S1 but she did it again!! I believe in second chances but not third chances. And how about the fact that she promised Brooke that she is not going to hurt her and then she hurt her? how about everytime she broke up with Lucas Brooke was there for her but everytime Brooke broke up with Lucas(Because of her in the first place) she wasnt there. How about the fact that Brooke had to move out and live with Rachel because of Peyton? How about the fact that even despite all that Brooke went to save her. And Peyton trashed her promm dress, and gave her a black eye before her prom. Im so sick of Peyton screwing things up...so what if she stood up for Brooke once, its not like Brooke has never done that for Peyton. Im sorry but I dont like Breyton their frienship is soo not equal. I feel like Brooke gives and Peyton only takes never gives.
I prefer Braley, and Brachel.
Even now Brooke is probably at the worst point in her life and where is her best friend?

Brooke is my favourite character.
But saBRUCAS , yes i agree that Peyton made some mistakes that hurt Brooke but we all know that Brooke made her mistakes too.
She make fun about the dead of the Peyton mothers, sex tape with Nathan ...

But they both forgive each other , i think we all should do the same.

She hasn`t always been a great friend but neither has Brooke! Why is it that Leyton fans NEVER attack Brooke the way Brucas fans do to Peyton?! Peyton isn`t perfect and she has redeemed herself for the mistakes she`s made and so has Brooke.

Peyton doesn't know it's the worst point of her life Jesus christ - seriously SERIOULSY??? B.Davis and P.Saywer are equal - god i would have more luck with a brick wall!

And i've already said whether you think Peyton isn't good enough to be Brooke's best friend (BUNCH OF BULL) is a DIFFERENT question! Brooke says Peyton is her best friend BROOKE! That makes Peyton her best friend REGARDLESS of what YOU think!

SG1-090: What are you talking about? for gods sake the girl had finger prints all over her...how could Naley tell there was something else and Peyton couldnt? Anywasys I dont want to get into this adn yeah Brooke has done some bad things I never said she didnt but even then its not equal between them. Yeah Brooke slept with Nathan but first of al they were broken up, second of all Nathan and Peyton didnt care about each other (Nathan all the girls at the party infront of her) third Brooke has changed bigtime since s1 and Peyton hasnt!
haha oh ok Brooke also called Peyton a "backtabbing two faced bitch" so that makes Peyton a backstabbing two faced bitch regardless of what you think...lol.

kathiria82- Leyton fans never attack Brooke? Is wrong because I have seen many do that. Yeah they might not do it as much because honestly they have no reason to, but they do do it. Brooke has never done anything that affected Leyton thats why Brucas fans hate Peyton because she ruined BL twice!

Okay well if we're going that way and disregarding all common sense then Brooke is a bitch too - Peyton said it =] Which would put then on the same level =] Which was one of my points! They are equal all the stuff they've done i could list but you know whats happened and they are both better to each other now because of it!

Naley never said anything other than the fall happened saBRUCAS just like peyton (why is it one rule for Naley with you and another for PEyton? You just want to find reasons to hate her!) - you can tell both Haley and Peyton suspect but they're not pushing - not sure about nate i think he was just concerned about the stuff with Victoria! - Which actually was super cute!

neither of them are perfect and they have both made mistakes but that still doesn't mean they are bad friends. I think it is unfair for the brucas to still be attacking peyton for something that happened years ago. I agree with everything that kathiria82,SG1-090, and Laurra has said.

If you go back a couple pages in the picks you can see that Leyton fans generally love Brooke. I don't think anyone who answered that pick said they hated her and I've never seen anyone bash her...so if you could give me a few examples saBRUCAS I would appreciate it (not that your wrong, I'm just trying to prove that you'd be hard-pressed to find Brooke bashing, whereas almost any pick you go into someone is saying something negative about Peyton). And when did we see Naley realizing something else was going on with Brooke? When Nathan went to see her he just talked about Victoria and Haley too, so??? And also Peyton did care about Nathan it's why she stayed with him (watch 415 over). I'm pretty sure that Nathan didn't care all that much about her, but that isn't the point. It wasn't right of Brooke to sleep with him especially since she knew how frequently they broke up and knew that in all likelihood they would be getting back together. They have both made mistakes, but they got over it so I think the fans should too.

sugassweet Im sure you can find some, but dont tell me that you have never seen an LPer call Brooke a slut or that she stole Lucas from Peyton or that she is a bitch for sleeping with Nathan or about the comment she made about Peyton's mother. Like I said more poeple hate/bash Peyton because Peyton effected Brucas and Brooke didnt effect Leyton. That is the point...Brooke and Lucas LOVED each other and Peyton still decided to ruin it without thinking what it would do. And like I said Brooke did make mistakes but she changed and soo did Nathan. By the way why dont you guys ever blame Nathan but always want us to blame Lucas for the cheating?
Youre right they both made mistakes but IMO Peyton made worse ones and I feel like Brooke learned from her mistakes unlike Peyton. They might have gotten over it but the fans view the show differently and we wont agree on everything...If Brucas suddenly gets together and Peyton is fine with that, would you start supporting Brucas? I dont think so. You cant always agree where the show is going and BLers havent gotten any BL since Peyton told Brooke about her feelings so how could we forget that? I dont know about other poeple but thats where they show completely changed for me.
I know it was a long time ago but the things she did basically shaped the way the show is right now.

i couldnt pick yes or no, the answers were pretty extreme, no i dont think peyton has ALWAYS been a good friend to brooke, and many of the comments when people pick that have then stated that fact. i think its impossible to always be a good friend and peyton at times has been a very bad friend, as much as i love p sawyer i wouldnt want her as my friend. but she is not an awful friend either and the majority of the time when there is no drama peyton is a great friend, i just think that its during the drama that you need your best friend if that makes sense at all. peyton has been a bad friend at times, brooke has been a bad friend at times, do i believe one is a better friend than the other, hell yes, do i bash peyton for being a bad friend, if the shoe fits then yes i do, am i ignorant to the moments that brooke hasnt been that great a friend to peyton, no i am not.

I agree w/ Broody_4_Cheery. Peyton has not been a consistently good friend to Brooke, but other times she has been an awesome friend, it just depends on which episode you watch.

Truth, no I actaully haven't heard anyone call Brooke a slut. (Okay wait maybe that's wrong I have, but referring to her character in season one when she was in fact quite loose, not in a present sense I hold this against her way because your right she has changed and most everyone recognizes that.) And yes I have heard people talk about her sleeping with Nathan and talking about Peyton's moms but once again none of those people hold that against her and continuously attack her for her mistakes. There is a difference between bashing and idk like making points for an argument. And by the way I don't know about everyone else, but I do blame Nathan for his actions in season 1. He was a massive jackass to Peyton constantly I really hated him for that back then. And I was upset with him to when the sex tape came out. And actually you really shouldn't make assumptions because if Brucas did get back together and Peyton was okay with it then I would be okay with it to. It would hurt because I love my couple. But I love my Peyton and my Breyton more and if both those things are okay and if they are both happy then I will be too.

i'm agreeing with saBRUCAS

to make it clear .....i don't like peyton and i didn't pick her becuase of that

this is just my opinpion
every since peyton told brooke about having feelings for lucas i stopped liking her ....really who tells someone that like your sister than you have feelings for there bf....never understood that
and yeah it was a long time ago but than what changed the whole show for me

qustion....if yor best friend came to you and looked like brooke after her attck and told you "they fell down the stairs" would you belive them???....i wouldn't...and that what really makes me mad about peytont that she didn't see straight through brooke like she should be able to..


E.G the hardest thing for brooke was lucas and peyton cheating on her 2 times and giving up her happiness....her releationship with lucas..... her whole relationship with peyton....and in moments like that you need your best frind but peyton(and lucas) were the one cause the pain and haley was there for her.....that why i picked haley

Don't say I didn't warn you

she is a good friend to Brooke, when she wants to be! Brooke is an awesome friend all the time, she even saved peytons life!!

i agree with oth-brucas 4ever and seBRUCAS
i think everytime peyton has done something bad brooke has been the bigger person and let it drop but i think peyotn is really nasty for coming onto lucas when he and brooke were in love i thing right now it would be brucas instead of leyton if only peyton had done the right thing and stayed out of their realationship!!

LMFAOO IM NOT EVEN GETTING INLVOLVED .. LIKE SARAH SAID LIKE TALKIN TO A BRICK WALL .. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER! TRUTH IS PEYTON IS A GOOD FRIEND AS IF BROOKE TO PEYTON!! THERE BOTH A-W-E-S-O-M-E THATS WHY I LOVE THEM ... THEYVE COME ALONG WAY .. THERE MY FAVOURITE FRIENDSHIP .. BEEN THROUGH WAYY MORE THAN LALEY THATS FOR SURE!!

SO TBH I DONT CARE WHAT YALL THINK .. IVE HEARD ENOUGH PEYTON BASHING ON HERE TO LAST ME A LIFE TIME .. IM JUST SOO SICK OF IT .. AN ITS NEVER GONNA CHANGE .. THERES ALWAYS GONNA BE IMMATURE COMMENTS ABOUT HER THAT WE DONT LIKE!! SO FUCK THIS SHIT!! IM JUST GONNA TAKE THE HIGH ROAD FROM NOW ON .. WELL UNTIL THE NEXT DEBATE WHICH I JUST HAVE TO JOIN IN WITH LMAO!!

sugassweet Im sorry, for thinking that but I guess what I meant was that Leyton is together now and more that half of the fanbase doesnt like or agree with where the show is going...so thats what I meant.
Brooke might have been loose but she was never ever a bad friend and thats one of her qualities that I really love. I actually thought that Peyton was quite loose herself...I mean she went behind her best friends back.

Yeah I agree with B4C, Peyton has been a good friend a couple of times, but mostly she has been a bad friend just the fact that she went behind Brooke's back twice proves what kind of friend she is. I mean if she really cared about Brooke do you think she would do it?
Yeah she stood up for Brooke when Victoria insulted Brooke but that doesnt mean she is good friend. Peyton has done far worse things compared to the few nice things that she has done. I hate when people say she is a good friend and their 1 example is "she stood up for Brooke" She also hurt Brooke many many times...probablly the most out of any other character. Brooke had to sacrifice soo many things for a frienship that is not even equal IMO.
Im not saying that Peyton is not a good person but she is definitely not a good friend.
I feel like Brooke does soo much for Peyton and Peyton keeps hurting her but thats just me ...I think its a matter of opinion and in my opinion Peyton just isnt a good friend...I would never ever want a friend like Peyton.

Hmmmm so your response kind of got me thinking...would I want a friend like Peyton. And idk would I? I love Peyton so much she's my favorite character, but I don't think that I would want her as a friend. Or Brooke for that matter or any of the main five really except for like Haley, but then she gets kind of preachy, so idk maybe not her either. Lol IDK maybe all of them. But anyway in response....

saBRUCAS
I think saying that Brooke was never ever a bad friend is definitely an overstatement. Just like I think saying Peyton was always a good friend is an overstatement (hence the sometimes answer). Brooke has done bad things to Peyton too and she hasn't always been perfect and I think a lot of Brucas fans have trouble admitting that she is flawed and loving her because she is human and she does make mistakes. A lot of them gloss over the bad and pretend it doesn't exist or just point out Peyton's flaws. Truth of the matter is Brooke did sleep with Nathan right after her best friend broke up with him. And she did try to put her best friend back into a relationship with a guy who she knew didn't care about her so she could go after the guy who did. And she did insult Peyton's mothers. It's the truth and there isn't any escaping it regardless of what Peyton has done. But then there is also no escaping what Peyton has done. They've both made mistakes and they've both been bad friends to each other. But that doesn't mean that they were never or that they aren't good friends overall. I would never say that Peyton is perfect, she isn’t and that’s why I love her. So actually been thinking again (lol do that a lot sorry) and I would want Peyton as a friend and Brooke if my friendship could be as deep as theirs is. And I keep hearing (and not just from you) that Peyton went behind Brooke's back twice...I honestly don't think that's true it was once and the time when she kissed him the library didn't count really because they both agreed it didn't mean anything (And I think right then Peyton and Lucas really believed that). She was dying and she pecked him...I really don't see how that constitutes her being a bad friend. But yeah I guess that's just my opinion so back to fact. I was lloking for this quote from season 2 I don't really remember who said it but it was something about brothers and how they are better and worst to each other than anyone else. And I think that can really apply to Brooke and Peyton just as much as Lucas and Nathan (who I think the quote was refering to or was that Dan and Keith? hmmm Idk but you get what I mean).

oth-brucas4ever
Yes I would believe them because what would make me assume that they are lying??? I feel it's more Brooke's behavior and attitude and the things she said in 603 that would clue me in that something else was wrong with her. And also Haley didn't notice anything odd about Brooke either so??? And also I think you put your response in the wrong pick this wasn't about who is the better friend.

I think that it is kinda true about how Brucas fans trash Peyton more than Leyton fans trash Brooke. I know a lot a lot of Leyton fans who love Brooke, but I don't know many Brucas fans that love Peyton. Yeah I know Peyton ruined Brucas twice but so what get over it that was forever ago. Brooke got over it and so did everyone else so why can't you. Oh and about what you said about Peyton not being there for her best friend(Season 6) well neither has like anyone of her friends, they have done nothing, so it isn't all P.Sawyer. Oh and the prom dress thing well even Brooke said that she liked that because it showed that Peyton still cared about her. And the black eye, yeah I would maybe punch my friend to if she made a sex tape w/ my ex-boyfriend and never told me about it.

Well thats all I have to say for now, I have to go study and go to sleep.haha. :)
Goodnight!

once again i'm agreeing with saBRUCAS
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i think we have more reason to trah peyton that leytoner have to trash brooke.but that not the point

i'm sorry but you just can't say get over it...it was a long time ago.

i love brucas and if it wasn't for peyton they might still be together...you never no.thats what changed the whole show and thats the reason a lot of brucas fans don't like peyton and i think brooke has never got over it...she was heartbroken by the two most inportant people in her life....it changed her forever

really in season 6 brooke hasn't really let anyone be there for her...she putting her proablems a side because everyone else has there but like nathan said her problems are still important too so she needs to open up.


sugassweet
maybe we have different views on the whole thing. i no the qustion isn't who is brookes best friend...and your right it is peyton but i in my own opinion thing she a bad friend

i think on this everyone has there own view and everyone should respect that....and in the end everyone isn't going to have one answer or view that we all share the same

sugassweet I have no problem admitting that Brooke has her flaws, actually HAD, I love Brooke because we saw her change (though she was my fav since S1) and grow as a character...thats what makes her more relatable I think. Brooke having flaws had nothing to do with her being a bad friend though. I think the only bad thing Brooke has done was the mothers comment and the Nathan thing. The Nathan sex tape thing was revealed in S4 but it had happened some where in the beginning of S1 (I thought it was completely out of character and was put in to equalize Brooke and Peyton and to get Peyton more fans) and Brooke has changed ALOT since then!
Yeah youre probablly right, no one on OTH is the perfect friend but Peyton is far from one IMO.
Yeah I have said this before too, Peyton has done some nice things for Brooke but they are ver miniscule compared to the bad things she has done. She wen t behind her back twice...and thats pretty huge in my books even though it was a long time ago, and Brooke forgave her and did soo much for her...
Obviously we are different people because I thought thought the libraby kiss was all Peyton. I know she was dying but that doesnt mean you are allowed to kiss your best friends boyfriend. And it wasnt the fact that it didnt mean anything it was the fact that she promised Brooke she wouldnt hurt her and then she kissed him,and told her she had feelings for Lucas, which ultimately broke Brucas up. A good friend in that situation would think of her best friend and how she hurt her before and would want her to be happy and...just NOT kiss her boyfriend!

I do believe that Peyton is Brooke's best friend but I just dont like their friendship...

You see I really don't like that Brucas fans like to say that the sex tape was put in there by the writers to make Peyton look better, but couldn't we just say that Peyton cheating with Luke was put in there to make Peyton flawed or whatever? What happened happened...what was written was written and it doesn't matter why you THINK it was written, it was it's history it's part of the show and you can't just write it off. I think that cheating with Nathan was totally within the range of who Brooke was in season 1. And yes the library kiss was all Peyton I agree she kissed him, but she was dying and if it was Haley who had been there and kissed Lucas for trying to save her NO ONE would have a problem with it, but because it's Peyton all of a sudden it's cheating. That kiss was almost exactly the same as the kiss that Laley had in season 1 after the boy toy auction and they didn't haaave to do it no matter what the rules said, but it anyone going around calling Lucas or Haley a backstabber no. I just don't get that. And really this is kind of for oth-brucas4ever and saBRUCAS...Brucas probably would have broken up anyway. I don't think you guys can see it because they're your favorite couple and it's hard for you, I get that it's hard for me to see the flaws in Leyton. But yeah Brooke was way too insecure back then, she didn't fully trust Lucas and he couldn't fully open up to her because that's how he was. She couldn't deal with that. It's why she was so upset with him she said it herself. I definitely think that they wouldn't have made it, but now Idk Brooke has matured alot and I think that they know more now and could be able to learn from their mistakes...so if they were to try again it could work, but back then their relationship was ticking time boom and Peyton was just the flame.

god i missed alot lol look of they wanna think peyton is a bad friend let them its there opinion at the end of they day they do have opinions to back there reason up

i agree with sugassweet. Brooke even told Lucas that their 2nd break up had nothing to do with the kiss in the library or Peyton. She said it was because they could never have a meaningful conversation and that she had only being staying with him to help him through the loss of Keith and finding out that he had HCM and losing basketball.

when brooke broke up with lucas she said she "couldn't do this anymore"

That being the love triangle of death. she loved lucas but it was too hard the first time so she got out while she could

it might not had anything to do with the kiss but peyton played a factor in it...they all did.

sugasswee- the reason why "Brucas fans" think Brathan sex tape was put in to get Peyton more fans and to equalize Brooke and Peyton was that we were suppose to believe it happened in S1 and it was revealed in S4, IF it had happened in S1 they would have deffinitely showed it in S1. But youre right whats writen is writen and it kinda sorta helps my argument: Brooke changed alot since S1. Another reason why I think it was out of character was that to Brooke Peyton's friendship meant everything she was willing to break up with Lucas, who she liked ALOT, for Peyton. So why would she do that with Nathan? Peyton was basically all Brooke had and vice versa. But Brooke remained a loyal friend after that and Peyton didnt. Peyton cheating with Lucas might have been put in to show her flaws. But again she has been the same through out the show. She went behind Brooke's back twice and in S5 she did the same thing the only difference was that it wasnt Brooke.
First of all I dont think Haley would EVER do that...but even if Haley did, youre right, it wouldnt be this big of a deal because Peyton and Lucas had history unlike Haley and Lucas, Haley never promised Brooke that she's not going to hurt her and Haley wasnt Brooke's best friend since they were 4. But still it would be cheating and it would be WRONG!
And your making it sound like anyone who gets shot needs to kiss the guy/girl who is saving him/her.
That kiss was almost exactly the same as the kiss that Laley had in season 1 after the boy toy auction and they didn't haaave to do it no matter what the rules said, but it anyone going around calling Lucas or Haley a backstabber no. I just don't get that.
I COMPLETELY disagree!
First of all Lucas wasnt with anyone at the moment...so it wouldnt be cheating. Second they sorta had to do it it was a rule. Third noone would call them backstabbers, because it wasnt cheating and they werent backstabbing anyone. Fourth I would deffinitely not compare this kiss to Leyton's kiss in s3. I would compare this kiss with Brooke/Peyton's kiss at the dare night or Peyton/Nathan's kiss for the boy toy auction thing, because those kisses were meaningless. And after the kiss Haley didnt develop feelings for Lucas...so those 2 kisses were completely different and cannot be compared!
I disagree again...Yeah Brucas had problems but Brooke's insecurties would not have broken them up. She started trusting Lucas and you could see that because she let Lucas and Peyton do that scene togther for Naley's rehersal dinner. And she didnt think them hanging out was big deal. And thats why she took Peyton's confession so hard because that was when she fully started trusting both, Lucas and Peyton, and then Peyton betrayed her. Brucas would have made it, just like they made it through Keiths death, Lucas finding out about HCM, Lucas not being able to play basketball, the school shooting, and so many other things. They were a solid couple and they were able to go through these problems and grow as a couple thats why I love them.

Brooke said she couldn't do this anymore - because she didn't want to be with someone who didn't love her as much as he should. He loves Peyton that way not Brooke.

So someone agree's that the BL break up was because of Peyton. Thank you.
Also Brooke THOUGHT that Lucas had feelings for Peyton in s4 hence the "I cant do this anymore" but we ALL know he didnt and he wanted Brooke.