i mean in the first season ( or 2) you couldn't count on Nathan and he was a womanizer ;) he was mean most of the time etc and Lucas was the good guy & i think that changed through the seasons.

I agree that Nathan has become 100% reliable and he definitely changed for the better throughout the seasons but I don't think I would consider Lucas to be the bad guy :D He kinda was towards the end of season 1 (Peyton said it herself) but afterwards...not really.
(Well, if you count the whole "can't-decide-who-he-loves" drama he actually was the "bad" guy)

(Well, if you count the whole "can't-decide-who-he-loves" drama he actually was the "bad" guy)

yes, i mean this ...the whole drama in season 5 .. for example =)

Oh, okay! Sry...I'm gonna change my pick then :D
Btw: The Luke/Nathan icon looks gorgeous <333

Nahhh... I don't think Lucas ever stooped to the level that Nathan was on in the early seasons. Yes, he may have been indecisive, and misleading towards certain girls. But I don't think he was ever a real "bad guy"/troublemaker/womanizer like Nathan was. Lucas only did his "bad doings" because he was just hurt, or confused. But Nathan did the things that he did because that's really just who he was at the time.

No. Lucas made mistakes of course but he was an undecided womanizer since season 1 so it isn't really a change.
Plus he was never a bad person like Nathan was in the beginning.

I don't think it in the Good guy/bad guy way because they both were the good guys but I think in a few ways Lucas lost a few qualities that Nathan picked up... Idk how to explain it

i miss the old nathan soooo much!!!!

I agree with Kelly.