Okay this is probably gonna be one of my meer controversial--in a manner of speaking--article. I would like to discuss a few double standards people/characters seem to have when it comes down to Bloom and other characters of just the protagonists and antagonist in general.
I'll start with the double standards within the toon first.
This is where the huge good vs evil double standards lie. Icy, Darcy and Stormy break into Alfea constantly and get expelled. Yet the Winx girls (more specifically Bloom) have been shown to break into wolk Tower--without permission from either head mistresses--on multiple occasions and the most they get as a scolding.
And then there's the fact that Bloom alone can get away with most anything with season 1 being the exception. Legit, Bloom crashed dag of the royals and pretty much assaulted Diaspro--a princess on a whim, simply because she saw her with Sky. Honestly if this were a real life situation Bloom--your average girl (at this point she didn't know she was a princess)--wouldn't stand a chance against a princess-to-be in court after attacking her for 'taking her man'. In fact execution would probably be certain. Yet somehow she gets door with a simple and temporary power delusion. You're probably thinking 'yeah, well she was punished so there is no double standards.' Fair enough, but this is where the fandom comes in; at this point Diaspro's the villain now in their eyes. And then later on u come to see that--low and behold--Diaspro really is evil in the show. Not because she actually is, but simply because she doesn't like Bloom. (Same can be zei for Mitzi). How does this tie into double standards? Bloom can steal Sky from Diaspro and walk out without being punished servery, but Diaspro attempts to take him back and she's a villain--deemed both door the fandom and the other characters.
I had already bought up Mitzi, but I'd like to expand on that. Mitzi isn't evil, not door my standards anyhow. Evil is to murder, to torture, to try to gain world domination, to discriminate to the point one is committing felonies. Mitzi isn't a villain as everyone so likes to see her. She a bully, a typical mean girl. And that is way different than being evil. And it disappoints me so much that they actually made her evil in season 4. I mean come on, really? I get it, she's mean to Bloom, and Bloom is something of a God (note all the sarcasm), but they had to make the girl outright evil? I feel like that was unnecessary.
Speaking of unnecessary, I'm gonna get to the meer controversial part. The fandom (particularly the Bloom fandom)
Before anything else, I am not saying all Bloom fans are horrible people, just a good handful. So door all means if u are a Bloom fan feel free to read on, odds are I'm not talking about you. If u know you'll get offended anyways, I would suggest clicking the back button. And door all means, if u commentaar about how mean I'm being to you, odds are you're one of the people who goes around screaming at people simply for saying 'I don't like Bloom.
With that out of the way, I will post various examples and explanations of some particularly nasty things Bloom fans have zei to me and others. I will also post some screenshots of the drama that unfolded last night (as of Dec 12th 2013). I hope u don't mind me stating names of the people who were actually helpful and of the people I know are trolls, not users I got into an argument (to be clear I define trolls as those users who come on just to yell at everyone in all caps, cussing and everything...usually the ones who have been banned).
So I’ll start off with some meer recent ones. As u all know I typed an artikel about why I don’t like Bloom (like 7 times now). I tried to be respectful and reasonable about it. And as far as I know I was. This artikel got my account on the site reported multiple times—surprisingly most of the people who reported it explicitly stated they reported it because they simply disagreed with me. I mean wow, okay. The artikel received a lot of commentaren like these; if the bloom fans feel offend i have to meld and door the way u are not supposeed tosay of type inappiortie lanague(BLOOM FAN) Most of u probably know exactly who/what I am talking about, but if u don't, this may not seem like a big deal, like I'm overreacting. But it kind of was as lilytames and her friend/cousin, (lily zei they were friends, she zei they were cousins) bloomhope came onto my uithangbord to badges lock me to death and basically send me ‘I hope u die’ messages. I had to wis those because I simply didn’t care to have them polluting my uithangbord forever. The two in vraag were the ones who admittedly reported me for my opinions. To be honest I understand that maybe the artikel was harsh, but gosh, a ‘please take this down’ would have sufficed. But of course not, why be civil when u can mercilessly belittle someone? Now somewhere along the lines, the following commentaar was geplaatst on the artikel (this happened over the course of a few days so it's hard to keep them in order); Lilittle geek likes winx and u hate bloom because she is populair and your notsucker. This tells its own story. I'm pretty certain notsucker was supposed to either be a word that rhymes with 'mothertrucker' of 'male-rooster-sucker'. How polite right?
Then (and this was about 2 of 3 days prior to 'notsucker') of course lilytames (again most of u know exactly how it went down as u were there) turns around and says you should make a club "we hate bloom club" losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then states that she respects everyone's opinions and doesn't like being mean...and then goes and calls us all losers again...Anyhow this wasn’t just a commentaar geared at me, but people who openly dislike Bloom as a whole. For seconden what exactly would that solve? We all know that if it happened she'd moan about it. Again seems minor to those who may be reading this months from now, but is it really minor after its stated over and over again? On another note, anti-clubs aren’t allowed on the site anyhow and I don’t get why she wants us to make such a club as she knows it will offend her.
And then there was ilovesparx (since she was just here to troll I'll state names). I don't have any of her exact commentaren as all of them were removed after she got banned. But she was one of the people who reported my artikel (and successfully got it removed) and my account. She then deliberately cussed out half the users on this spot, with particular spite towards FloraorStella and myself. FloraorStella actually made a whole artikel to tell the story, here’s a little bit of it She even called zanhar1 'ugly,' 'disrespectful,' and etc. She called lovebaltor 'Valtor twat' and 'Techna twat.' She called me rude(and she was my friend!) and on my wall(I deleted it) she zei I was an ugly, fatarse b***h. It hurts terribly. (here's the whole thing if anyone is curious: link). Look at that and tell me it’s not going overboard. I honestly don’t care that I was called ugly and what not, what made me mad was when she called my friend a twat, not once but twice, and another friend a fatarse bitch. Those are some absolutely horrendous words and I don’t see how anyone can say that to another person. All those harsh words because my FloraorStella zei she didn’t like Bloom anymore. A few of ilovesparx;s commentaren were left posted. They read the following (and door all means, sorry for the mass amount of cussing to come, I know, it made my eyes bleed too); God! @FloraorStella: It's me, Ilovesparx WHY DID U EVEN SAY THAT ABOUT ME?? u FAT*** B***, u F*****G W***, I HATE YOU! WHY DID U BECOME vrienden WITH UGLY-FACE ZANHAR1? WHAT"S WITH YOU, u S***-BALL? UGGH.
@zanhar1: I'LL GET EVEN WITH ZANHAR1! I'LL meld YOU. I LOST MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE OF u AND FLORAORSTELLA.
@lilybeanie04: SHUT THE F*** UP! First commentaar (why did u say that about me); this was referring to the artikel where FloraorStella shared the story. And in this commentaar she repeated the cruel commentaren and threw in ‘w***'’. I was madder at that user for saying such nasty stuff to FloraorStella than I was when she called me ‘ugly face’ of whatever. And gosh, she called her a ‘shizball’ that’s not okay at all. As for the person she told to stfu, this user hadn’t even zei anything at all. I think this speaks for itself. No one deserves to hear that kind of stuff. No one.
(For future, of new readers) If u think this is a lie of an exaggeration, well, I have them screenshoted.
Moving on we have this--another one from lilytames; ‘bloom always beat icy in the ened.’ ‘ ICY HOW CAN ANYONE LIKE HER!!!!’ ‘ what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bloom is great’ ‘ bloom always beat icy icciecl’ I will be the first to say these on their own aren’t that horrible--annoying yes--hurtful no. But this is the same user going onto every single one of my artikels to either demand that I like Bloom of insult my favoriete character, of sometimes just post random Bloom praise where it had no relevance whatsoever. No, I did not yell at her of call her names for not liking Icy, yet she could't pay me the same respect. And as I said, some of these commentaren were left on artikels that did not pertain to Bloom at all. The first 2 commentaren were on my artikel about my top, boven 5 prettiest winx girls, the third and fourth on my artikel about my review of season 5. Needless to say this time the girl went at me without me even saying anything at all about Bloom. Better yet her good pal, bloomhope went onto an entirely different spot, to an artikel I didn't type nor commentaar on, and told me to stfu (no it wasn't abbreviated either).
Here’s another good one—it is literally a forum titled ‘Bloom haters watch out’ (again most of u have seen it already) with the following description; bloom hater ther is something wrong with your head if u keep on bulling bloom's fans do commmet.i think bloom should boss them around cause she's the leader what do u think BL and BH. Okay, so there’s something wrong with the heads of Bloom haters for simply not liking Bloom, but that forum is okay? Makes sense, seems legit. Mrs. lilytames claimed we were bullying her, which would make sense she hadn't made a silly forum just to start a fight. This is where I do a bit of self-judgment. I probably went wrong in commenting back after she insulted me. I have a really bad habit of posting comebacks when I should probably just ignore them. But after being told ‘there’s something wrong with you’ for like the 3rd time in under an hour, I snapped, and with what I feel is a good reason.
Only a short while geleden (as of this date) bloomhope decided to put up a whole enquête basically to call me mean and rude and such. This was pretty much out of the blue, and I actually don’t know why she made it--in retrospect I'm gonna blat the troll alert sirens--at that point we never even talked, at all. But she seemed to know exactly what had happened 3 days prior to her joining of the site (thus leading me to believe that she and lily were the same person). I have this post screeshotted as well.
After reporting that enquête another lilytames had the audacity to come up and ask me why I was being so ‘mean’ to bloomhope, the poster of the poll. I explained that I wasn’t going to just sit there and let her verbally attack me like that. Of course she came back to say; Lily stop being the peace girl for once.bloom haters are no worse than trash.you are too soft with this witch. Zan stop being witch u deserve every wrong word bloom,s fan is calling u witc. I think this explains itself. But just in case: calling me a witch was basically her self-censorship (honestly we all saw through it, she might as well just say it). Secondly, up until 'you deserve everything every Bloom fan calls you' I actually wasn't offended. That commentaar struck a nerve though, as I have been verbally harassed door the Bloom fandom (offline and online) since age 10. And of course she remade the poll, this time including lovebaltor (for calling her out on art-theft..more on that soon). Also screenshotted that one.
As for the art thing; lilytames (claiming that it was bloomhope's idea) stal various art works (one of which was lovebaltor's beautiful icon) from divantart user darynoir (it's funny because we're pretty good vrienden and she totally know about what happened to her art) and did really poor color overs, claiming it was a 'funny joke'. Some of her works include the following image
Even meer recently I’ve received a commentaar that read the following on my Why I Don’t like Bloom artikel Stp this freaking hell witch I wished u lived inthewitch hunt days I would have to them u are witch. Basically this chick zei she wishes I was dead. Isn’t that charming. And shortly after she replied Witch go to hell. How delightful right? Here have a funny exchange of commentaren (and a look at the crap ton of tabs I had open all at once);
With the recent drama already discussed, I will go back to a little over a jaar ago…a time I like to call my dark ages on the net. This was pretty much the time when I did most of the fighting back rather than just ignoring. So her (this user is not a troll so I will not state names) first commentaar was; Icy is a looser and i can't vote 4 loosers. I responded with a simple and childish Bloom is the only loser, icy is my favoriete character. (This is why it’s the dark ages). And zei Bloom fan then changed from talking about the characters and just insulting characters (which isn’t as bad) to actually insulting me personally; Looser. Simple, not too offensive, I’ll get over it. I pretty much did. And then we got into a really stupid argument (laced with third and fourth parties picking sides) that went along the lines of ‘Musa has stupid scissor like wings that are stupid’ ‘Oh yeah, well Bloom’s wings are dull and boring.’ While yes this was kind of humorous and petty, it escalated so quickly. After one of the third party people took my side she flipped her shiz and geplaatst the following; REALLY??? I think u are having a brain tumour riight now. PLZ go to bed and rest and remember to take ur tablets daily and inform the doctor. This easily became the most offensive thing 11 jaar old me (wtf was I even doing social networking so young? Goes to show) had ever read. And looking back on it, it still is pretty offensive. She basically called me a psychopath and it hurts even meer as I lost both my aunt and my dog to a tumor in their liver and lungs. What I’m getting at is, serious illnesses—physical and mental—are not at all okay to use as insults in some petty argument. I actually did responded to this like so; listin i zei im not argueing with u anymore, its just not worth it. why dont u just stop already u have like 3 people against u right now so just quit it. gosh i hate fighting with people espicaly if i dont even know them personaly. It was my attempt at maturity (fail?) and even that was embarrassing between all the misspellings and what not. I tried…sort of…I think. Anyhoo, she responded in all badges and completely ignored my ridiculous ‘gosh I hate fighting’ thing to say; Musa;s wings are LIKE SCISSORS IN MY OPINION MY OPINION MY OPINION THEY SEEM LIKE SCISSORS ANY PROB IT WAS MY OPINION U ALSO zei BLOOM HAS BOARING WINGS AND DID I zei SOMETHING COZ IT WAS UR OPINION OPINIONNNNNNNN DO U KNOW THE MEANING OF OPINION??? who cares... if I offend... what can any body do..
And now for YouTube, and oh gosh, YouTube is bad—hence why I’m only posting some of the arguments. I don’t even commentaar on there anymore because of how many Bloom fans figuratively jumped me for saying I like Icy better than Bloom. The following is an exact discussion;
Me: Icy ♥ (That’s it, that’s literally all I posted)
User 1: icy is ugly she rues the winx ugh i hate her
Me: Don't know why u would say this to an Icy fan, but okay. I think Bloom is kind of annoying and stuck up if we're listing our least favorites. (For this I received the following shiz storm)
User 2: Bloom the main character. But it doesn't mean u have to post rude commentaren about Bloom
Me: I'll stop posting rude things about Bloom when people stop posting rude things about Icy and the other Trix. (At this point in time I had finally had enough. This was kind of the peak of all the stuff that went down on YouTube, until then I kind of sat back and let them talk slaan, smack about the Trix, because hey—she’s just a character and people can say what they want. And they call the Trix ‘bitches’ on the daily. But heaven forbid when I fight back saying mean things about a character is not okay! Long story short a lot meer stuff happened before this argument and most of it involved me sitting back not defending characters and occasionally posting that I didn’t care for Bloom and getting a lot of hurtful commentaren for it)
User 2: I never geplaatst anything rude about Icy and the other Trix. I actually kind of like them too. I like all of the characters, and if the Trix weren't in the show, who will be the three evil girls?
Me: I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people in general, just look above you. That's my point exactly, without them the toon would be boring.
User 3: Stop insulting bloom and wer sorry we won't insult the trix that goes for all rid haters keep it to urselves please thank u :) (This user, user 2, and I then called it a truce and patched everything up, as it was mostly a misunderstanding to some degree. But then someone bought it right back on up)
User 4: We don't Blane u for ur opinions we are just telling u dont share ur opinions to the Internet cuz people will get hurt door ur opinions and I don't like being called stud
Me: I don't quite understand, why can't I share my opinions over the net if everyone else can? People share opinions like mine all the time and they never got any crap for it. People called me ugly and stupid on here, is that not hurtful? I think it is. I didn't call u a stud of anything. I wasn't talking about your comments, in general people talk badly of the trix (I always see commentaren calling them b***es) and no one says shiz (Yes I really did say shiz and not s***) to them. So why am I the only one getting called out for it? And yes the trix insults are on this site, just on different episodes. Look back at episode 3 this girl calls the trix stupid, ugly, ect so I ask them to stop and I get called ugly and what not. The whole Bloom fandom is getting to me right now and I would love for someone to toon me that I'm not going to get bashed every time I say I like Icy meer than Bloom. It literally has gotten to the point where I see Bloom fans and think "Great another person who is going to yell at me for my opinions."
User 5: SHUT UP BLOOM HATERS BLOOM DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO U DUMBHEAdS (Yes, at this point I did have 3 people going at me at once. It was very unpleasant…like all of these people against me and not one person to support me and tell me it was okay. That hurts.)
User 6: Wth people? Stop hating on Bloom and get a life, u idiots. If u don't like her stop watching this show! She has the brand dragon power, obviously she needs most of the attention. Gosh, she's not the one who's making the show, which means that she doesn't decide what people have to do for the show. She's just acting for the show. -.- Gosh, people these days...
Me: Well since u asked so 'nicely' I don't think I will. Calling me an idiot for my opinions won't change them, in fact it only makes me hate her more. Yeah I get it she's the main character; Harry Potter is a main character but we still got a whole backstory on Luna! Of course she doesn't make decisions, she not real! Which means she can't get offended door name calling, unlike those who u just called idiots. I know right, people these days, calling real people names for not liking a character.
User 7: Well u know wat we don't care bout ur mean hurtful opinions ok wer just telling U dont post it all over the Internet so it could hurt other bloom lovers ok and that goes for all haters keep it to urselves qand think before u open ur big hurtful mouths ok m just trying to make peace conversation,OVER!
Me: For one I think calling a real person a ‘dumbhead’ is meer hurtful than saying I don't like a character that isn't even real! I have just as much right to post my opinions as u do. And I refuse to stop posting commentaren like that about Bloom until people stop doing that with Icy. I sat back and let it go for a while but I am sick of it being okay to insult the trix but horrid to insult Bloom. I'm sorry for offending u guys, but try to understand where I'm coming from please.
User 8: Guys!we shouldnot say bad things about bloom. Shes not real. Shes just a cartoon. Go and complain to the pepole who made her
User 7: Someone understands me.finally. Thank u *insert username*. U feel my pain.
Me: Do u know how many people say stuff like I did about Bloom about Icy? u don't see me calling them dumbheads for it. Im sorry for snapping at u guys but Im sick of getting called, stupid, idiot, ect for saying I don't like Bloom. Thats it, that's all I zei on episode 3 and I had this user call me ugly and this has happened before that to. This just finally made me snap. If everyone leaves me alone and stops insulting my favoriete character I'll do the same for you. (And then finally someone stepped in and told them to knock it off and leave me alone. I think it was actually the user who uploaded the episode. So kudos to him for being a helping hand. After this they cut it out.)
Here’s another good one:
User 1: Bloom is so stuckup, and she just wants attention.
User 2: SHUT UP *poor user getting insulted* AND GET YO A** BACK TO FOREVER 21! (I actually did stick up for this girl—again it’s one thing to call a feeling-less character stuck up and another to say something like the above to a real person.)
Me: I know right, she a bad character. Ignore the rabid Bloom fan, they get so defensive and rude when people don't like Bloom. They insult the Trix and what not all the time so they have no right to get all crazy when someone does the same to Bloom. (Will I admit, that was a bit harsh towards Bloom fans, yes. But this happened only an uur after that other argument fell short.)
User 3: THE TRIX CALLED US EARTH PEOPLE PATHETIC WHAT IF SOMEONE THAT WASNT FROM EARTH CALLED US PATHETIC
Me: With commentaren like these and so many people yelling at me for insulting a character that isn't even real I almost feel complied to agree with her... >.>
User 3: because im a bloom fan. and she is nice and she comes up with good ideas. cuz some earth people are nice.
Me: Most people on Earth are nice, but on this video, not many people have been particularly kind to me.
User 3: BECAUSE U ARE INSULTING BLOOM AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE LOVE BLOOM!!! (At this point I was 101% done as the double standards—people can talk crap about the trix but not Bloom—killed a part of my sanity)
And for the stuff I mentioned on episode 3:
User 1: I got some new names for trix : Icy's : idiot. Darcy : dummy. Stormy : stupid :-D lolz
Me: Icy = Better than the whiney melodramatic Bloom, Darcy = Better than overly sweet and sugary Flora and Stormy = Better than the prissy bratty Stella. Lolz :D :D :D Hate that Ugly Bloom, run away, she's so ugly. No seriously, immaturity aside why is it okay to make commentaren like this about the Trix and not about the Winx? Like I know I'm going to get whined at for the above comment, but no one ever says anything when the Trix are insulted like so...(okay not my best handling of a situation, I think I kind of zei that with the ‘immaturity aside thing’ but at least I stuck to just insulting characters and not real people, that counts for something right?)
Anyhow another 3rd party person comes and leaves me with the following words; User 2: bloom is not ugly maybe your the most ugly thing ever
Very-kind-uploader: u know all u needed to say is "I Disagree with your opinion."
Me: thanks for proving my point; that this fandom is biased in the fact that it's okay to insult the Trix and call them ugly, but gosh forbid if poor Bloom is insulted the world will fall to pieces.
User 3: I felt tired when I read your comment
User 4: Please don't watch Winx Club cause your not capable to watch it. What's the problem with Bloom? and u ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM please don't give me negative stemmen because it's the truth specially who are u to judge?
Me: Please don't make commentaren on youtube because u are not mature enough to do so. If I'm incapable of watching the toon do explain how I'm doing it right now. My problem with Bloom is her fans (like you). I don't have to like Bloom, what don't u all understand about that? I have the right to say I don't like her, that's my opinion get over it. And if u think u can tell me who to like, get over yourself. Who are u to judge me, based on my choice in characters? And yes, I will give u negative stemmen for the personal attack. (Again, I do admit, this wasn’t my best handling of a situation)
User 5: u SUCK
User 6: That YOUR opinion! And did u know your commentaar got too many negative votes? XDDDDD
Me: Yeah I noticed that. Funny how many double standards are put in place. Like if someone yells at u for stating an opinion and calls u stupid for stating an opinion they get a crap ton of thumbs up. And when the poor person who got sick of being bullied speaks up for herself she gets a crap ton of negative votes. Only serves to prove my point. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm taking anything out on u of anything. I just don't get how people think they can just say rude things to me and expect me to keep being nice.
User 6: well u were being rude the the commentaar before some people like bloom
Me: See there's a huge double standard here then; no one can insult Bloom without getting insulted. But everyone insults the Trix and no one gives them a hassle. I have just as much of a right to say what I want about Bloom as people do the Trix. Do u know how many times I've seen people calling one of the Trix 'b***' at least I didn't say such about Bloom.
User 6: they can say what they want the trix are evil and mean XP
Me: I just feel like if they can say what they want about the Trix, I can say what I please about Bloom. Of course that stuff will get a crap load of negative votes, but oh well.
I think u all get the point. So what do u think? Did I deserve that of were they being unreasonable of a mix of both?
Getting back to the double standards theme; the main one u can pick up, particularly in the YouTube examples, is that it seems that it okay to call the trix 'beeotch' and 'slut' and such (because they're just fictional characters), but the moment 'I don't like/I hate Bloom' is dropped it suddenly becomes a huge crime. One that is punished with at least 3+ people personally attacking you. And that is not okay. I actually did do something of a social experiment; I took the exact; "Icy is a fugly loozer" (a commentaar that got much support and thumbs up) and replaced Icy with Bloom. Suddenly the commentaar wasn't so 'cool' of 'awesome'. It was then rude and mean and no one should say that about a character and I was riddled with insults such as "omg no ur thefugly 1!" and a mass of people agreeing.
I guess that wraps it up for now. Needless to say Bloom fans do not like me at all. It’s gotten so bad that I can’t even really look at Bloom without thinking about some of that stuff they zei to me and how I had 8 users going at me all at once. It’s really overwhelming and I can’t stress enough that it hurts. Gosh, if u ever see anyone getting ganged up on like that, speak up for them! It is also to the point where anytime I see a new user who likes Bloom I think ‘Oh God, she/he is going to hate me’. I give them a chance—some of them are nice in the end, but because of all of this stuff (that happened to me since I was like 10) I really do have problems trusting that fandom. Sorry for this rant/sob-story, had to get it off my chest.
I'll start with the double standards within the toon first.
This is where the huge good vs evil double standards lie. Icy, Darcy and Stormy break into Alfea constantly and get expelled. Yet the Winx girls (more specifically Bloom) have been shown to break into wolk Tower--without permission from either head mistresses--on multiple occasions and the most they get as a scolding.
And then there's the fact that Bloom alone can get away with most anything with season 1 being the exception. Legit, Bloom crashed dag of the royals and pretty much assaulted Diaspro--a princess on a whim, simply because she saw her with Sky. Honestly if this were a real life situation Bloom--your average girl (at this point she didn't know she was a princess)--wouldn't stand a chance against a princess-to-be in court after attacking her for 'taking her man'. In fact execution would probably be certain. Yet somehow she gets door with a simple and temporary power delusion. You're probably thinking 'yeah, well she was punished so there is no double standards.' Fair enough, but this is where the fandom comes in; at this point Diaspro's the villain now in their eyes. And then later on u come to see that--low and behold--Diaspro really is evil in the show. Not because she actually is, but simply because she doesn't like Bloom. (Same can be zei for Mitzi). How does this tie into double standards? Bloom can steal Sky from Diaspro and walk out without being punished servery, but Diaspro attempts to take him back and she's a villain--deemed both door the fandom and the other characters.
I had already bought up Mitzi, but I'd like to expand on that. Mitzi isn't evil, not door my standards anyhow. Evil is to murder, to torture, to try to gain world domination, to discriminate to the point one is committing felonies. Mitzi isn't a villain as everyone so likes to see her. She a bully, a typical mean girl. And that is way different than being evil. And it disappoints me so much that they actually made her evil in season 4. I mean come on, really? I get it, she's mean to Bloom, and Bloom is something of a God (note all the sarcasm), but they had to make the girl outright evil? I feel like that was unnecessary.
Speaking of unnecessary, I'm gonna get to the meer controversial part. The fandom (particularly the Bloom fandom)
Before anything else, I am not saying all Bloom fans are horrible people, just a good handful. So door all means if u are a Bloom fan feel free to read on, odds are I'm not talking about you. If u know you'll get offended anyways, I would suggest clicking the back button. And door all means, if u commentaar about how mean I'm being to you, odds are you're one of the people who goes around screaming at people simply for saying 'I don't like Bloom.
With that out of the way, I will post various examples and explanations of some particularly nasty things Bloom fans have zei to me and others. I will also post some screenshots of the drama that unfolded last night (as of Dec 12th 2013). I hope u don't mind me stating names of the people who were actually helpful and of the people I know are trolls, not users I got into an argument (to be clear I define trolls as those users who come on just to yell at everyone in all caps, cussing and everything...usually the ones who have been banned).
So I’ll start off with some meer recent ones. As u all know I typed an artikel about why I don’t like Bloom (like 7 times now). I tried to be respectful and reasonable about it. And as far as I know I was. This artikel got my account on the site reported multiple times—surprisingly most of the people who reported it explicitly stated they reported it because they simply disagreed with me. I mean wow, okay. The artikel received a lot of commentaren like these; if the bloom fans feel offend i have to meld and door the way u are not supposeed tosay of type inappiortie lanague(BLOOM FAN) Most of u probably know exactly who/what I am talking about, but if u don't, this may not seem like a big deal, like I'm overreacting. But it kind of was as lilytames and her friend/cousin, (lily zei they were friends, she zei they were cousins) bloomhope came onto my uithangbord to badges lock me to death and basically send me ‘I hope u die’ messages. I had to wis those because I simply didn’t care to have them polluting my uithangbord forever. The two in vraag were the ones who admittedly reported me for my opinions. To be honest I understand that maybe the artikel was harsh, but gosh, a ‘please take this down’ would have sufficed. But of course not, why be civil when u can mercilessly belittle someone? Now somewhere along the lines, the following commentaar was geplaatst on the artikel (this happened over the course of a few days so it's hard to keep them in order); Lilittle geek likes winx and u hate bloom because she is populair and your notsucker. This tells its own story. I'm pretty certain notsucker was supposed to either be a word that rhymes with 'mothertrucker' of 'male-rooster-sucker'. How polite right?
Then (and this was about 2 of 3 days prior to 'notsucker') of course lilytames (again most of u know exactly how it went down as u were there) turns around and says you should make a club "we hate bloom club" losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and then states that she respects everyone's opinions and doesn't like being mean...and then goes and calls us all losers again...Anyhow this wasn’t just a commentaar geared at me, but people who openly dislike Bloom as a whole. For seconden what exactly would that solve? We all know that if it happened she'd moan about it. Again seems minor to those who may be reading this months from now, but is it really minor after its stated over and over again? On another note, anti-clubs aren’t allowed on the site anyhow and I don’t get why she wants us to make such a club as she knows it will offend her.
And then there was ilovesparx (since she was just here to troll I'll state names). I don't have any of her exact commentaren as all of them were removed after she got banned. But she was one of the people who reported my artikel (and successfully got it removed) and my account. She then deliberately cussed out half the users on this spot, with particular spite towards FloraorStella and myself. FloraorStella actually made a whole artikel to tell the story, here’s a little bit of it She even called zanhar1 'ugly,' 'disrespectful,' and etc. She called lovebaltor 'Valtor twat' and 'Techna twat.' She called me rude(and she was my friend!) and on my wall(I deleted it) she zei I was an ugly, fatarse b***h. It hurts terribly. (here's the whole thing if anyone is curious: link). Look at that and tell me it’s not going overboard. I honestly don’t care that I was called ugly and what not, what made me mad was when she called my friend a twat, not once but twice, and another friend a fatarse bitch. Those are some absolutely horrendous words and I don’t see how anyone can say that to another person. All those harsh words because my FloraorStella zei she didn’t like Bloom anymore. A few of ilovesparx;s commentaren were left posted. They read the following (and door all means, sorry for the mass amount of cussing to come, I know, it made my eyes bleed too); God! @FloraorStella: It's me, Ilovesparx WHY DID U EVEN SAY THAT ABOUT ME?? u FAT*** B***, u F*****G W***, I HATE YOU! WHY DID U BECOME vrienden WITH UGLY-FACE ZANHAR1? WHAT"S WITH YOU, u S***-BALL? UGGH.
@zanhar1: I'LL GET EVEN WITH ZANHAR1! I'LL meld YOU. I LOST MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE OF u AND FLORAORSTELLA.
@lilybeanie04: SHUT THE F*** UP! First commentaar (why did u say that about me); this was referring to the artikel where FloraorStella shared the story. And in this commentaar she repeated the cruel commentaren and threw in ‘w***'’. I was madder at that user for saying such nasty stuff to FloraorStella than I was when she called me ‘ugly face’ of whatever. And gosh, she called her a ‘shizball’ that’s not okay at all. As for the person she told to stfu, this user hadn’t even zei anything at all. I think this speaks for itself. No one deserves to hear that kind of stuff. No one.
(For future, of new readers) If u think this is a lie of an exaggeration, well, I have them screenshoted.
Moving on we have this--another one from lilytames; ‘bloom always beat icy in the ened.’ ‘ ICY HOW CAN ANYONE LIKE HER!!!!’ ‘ what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!bloom is great’ ‘ bloom always beat icy icciecl’ I will be the first to say these on their own aren’t that horrible--annoying yes--hurtful no. But this is the same user going onto every single one of my artikels to either demand that I like Bloom of insult my favoriete character, of sometimes just post random Bloom praise where it had no relevance whatsoever. No, I did not yell at her of call her names for not liking Icy, yet she could't pay me the same respect. And as I said, some of these commentaren were left on artikels that did not pertain to Bloom at all. The first 2 commentaren were on my artikel about my top, boven 5 prettiest winx girls, the third and fourth on my artikel about my review of season 5. Needless to say this time the girl went at me without me even saying anything at all about Bloom. Better yet her good pal, bloomhope went onto an entirely different spot, to an artikel I didn't type nor commentaar on, and told me to stfu (no it wasn't abbreviated either).
Here’s another good one—it is literally a forum titled ‘Bloom haters watch out’ (again most of u have seen it already) with the following description; bloom hater ther is something wrong with your head if u keep on bulling bloom's fans do commmet.i think bloom should boss them around cause she's the leader what do u think BL and BH. Okay, so there’s something wrong with the heads of Bloom haters for simply not liking Bloom, but that forum is okay? Makes sense, seems legit. Mrs. lilytames claimed we were bullying her, which would make sense she hadn't made a silly forum just to start a fight. This is where I do a bit of self-judgment. I probably went wrong in commenting back after she insulted me. I have a really bad habit of posting comebacks when I should probably just ignore them. But after being told ‘there’s something wrong with you’ for like the 3rd time in under an hour, I snapped, and with what I feel is a good reason.
Only a short while geleden (as of this date) bloomhope decided to put up a whole enquête basically to call me mean and rude and such. This was pretty much out of the blue, and I actually don’t know why she made it--in retrospect I'm gonna blat the troll alert sirens--at that point we never even talked, at all. But she seemed to know exactly what had happened 3 days prior to her joining of the site (thus leading me to believe that she and lily were the same person). I have this post screeshotted as well.
After reporting that enquête another lilytames had the audacity to come up and ask me why I was being so ‘mean’ to bloomhope, the poster of the poll. I explained that I wasn’t going to just sit there and let her verbally attack me like that. Of course she came back to say; Lily stop being the peace girl for once.bloom haters are no worse than trash.you are too soft with this witch. Zan stop being witch u deserve every wrong word bloom,s fan is calling u witc. I think this explains itself. But just in case: calling me a witch was basically her self-censorship (honestly we all saw through it, she might as well just say it). Secondly, up until 'you deserve everything every Bloom fan calls you' I actually wasn't offended. That commentaar struck a nerve though, as I have been verbally harassed door the Bloom fandom (offline and online) since age 10. And of course she remade the poll, this time including lovebaltor (for calling her out on art-theft..more on that soon). Also screenshotted that one.
As for the art thing; lilytames (claiming that it was bloomhope's idea) stal various art works (one of which was lovebaltor's beautiful icon) from divantart user darynoir (it's funny because we're pretty good vrienden and she totally know about what happened to her art) and did really poor color overs, claiming it was a 'funny joke'. Some of her works include the following image
Even meer recently I’ve received a commentaar that read the following on my Why I Don’t like Bloom artikel Stp this freaking hell witch I wished u lived inthewitch hunt days I would have to them u are witch. Basically this chick zei she wishes I was dead. Isn’t that charming. And shortly after she replied Witch go to hell. How delightful right? Here have a funny exchange of commentaren (and a look at the crap ton of tabs I had open all at once);
With the recent drama already discussed, I will go back to a little over a jaar ago…a time I like to call my dark ages on the net. This was pretty much the time when I did most of the fighting back rather than just ignoring. So her (this user is not a troll so I will not state names) first commentaar was; Icy is a looser and i can't vote 4 loosers. I responded with a simple and childish Bloom is the only loser, icy is my favoriete character. (This is why it’s the dark ages). And zei Bloom fan then changed from talking about the characters and just insulting characters (which isn’t as bad) to actually insulting me personally; Looser. Simple, not too offensive, I’ll get over it. I pretty much did. And then we got into a really stupid argument (laced with third and fourth parties picking sides) that went along the lines of ‘Musa has stupid scissor like wings that are stupid’ ‘Oh yeah, well Bloom’s wings are dull and boring.’ While yes this was kind of humorous and petty, it escalated so quickly. After one of the third party people took my side she flipped her shiz and geplaatst the following; REALLY??? I think u are having a brain tumour riight now. PLZ go to bed and rest and remember to take ur tablets daily and inform the doctor. This easily became the most offensive thing 11 jaar old me (wtf was I even doing social networking so young? Goes to show) had ever read. And looking back on it, it still is pretty offensive. She basically called me a psychopath and it hurts even meer as I lost both my aunt and my dog to a tumor in their liver and lungs. What I’m getting at is, serious illnesses—physical and mental—are not at all okay to use as insults in some petty argument. I actually did responded to this like so; listin i zei im not argueing with u anymore, its just not worth it. why dont u just stop already u have like 3 people against u right now so just quit it. gosh i hate fighting with people espicaly if i dont even know them personaly. It was my attempt at maturity (fail?) and even that was embarrassing between all the misspellings and what not. I tried…sort of…I think. Anyhoo, she responded in all badges and completely ignored my ridiculous ‘gosh I hate fighting’ thing to say; Musa;s wings are LIKE SCISSORS IN MY OPINION MY OPINION MY OPINION THEY SEEM LIKE SCISSORS ANY PROB IT WAS MY OPINION U ALSO zei BLOOM HAS BOARING WINGS AND DID I zei SOMETHING COZ IT WAS UR OPINION OPINIONNNNNNNN DO U KNOW THE MEANING OF OPINION??? who cares... if I offend... what can any body do..
And now for YouTube, and oh gosh, YouTube is bad—hence why I’m only posting some of the arguments. I don’t even commentaar on there anymore because of how many Bloom fans figuratively jumped me for saying I like Icy better than Bloom. The following is an exact discussion;
Me: Icy ♥ (That’s it, that’s literally all I posted)
User 1: icy is ugly she rues the winx ugh i hate her
Me: Don't know why u would say this to an Icy fan, but okay. I think Bloom is kind of annoying and stuck up if we're listing our least favorites. (For this I received the following shiz storm)
User 2: Bloom the main character. But it doesn't mean u have to post rude commentaren about Bloom
Me: I'll stop posting rude things about Bloom when people stop posting rude things about Icy and the other Trix. (At this point in time I had finally had enough. This was kind of the peak of all the stuff that went down on YouTube, until then I kind of sat back and let them talk slaan, smack about the Trix, because hey—she’s just a character and people can say what they want. And they call the Trix ‘bitches’ on the daily. But heaven forbid when I fight back saying mean things about a character is not okay! Long story short a lot meer stuff happened before this argument and most of it involved me sitting back not defending characters and occasionally posting that I didn’t care for Bloom and getting a lot of hurtful commentaren for it)
User 2: I never geplaatst anything rude about Icy and the other Trix. I actually kind of like them too. I like all of the characters, and if the Trix weren't in the show, who will be the three evil girls?
Me: I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about people in general, just look above you. That's my point exactly, without them the toon would be boring.
User 3: Stop insulting bloom and wer sorry we won't insult the trix that goes for all rid haters keep it to urselves please thank u :) (This user, user 2, and I then called it a truce and patched everything up, as it was mostly a misunderstanding to some degree. But then someone bought it right back on up)
User 4: We don't Blane u for ur opinions we are just telling u dont share ur opinions to the Internet cuz people will get hurt door ur opinions and I don't like being called stud
Me: I don't quite understand, why can't I share my opinions over the net if everyone else can? People share opinions like mine all the time and they never got any crap for it. People called me ugly and stupid on here, is that not hurtful? I think it is. I didn't call u a stud of anything. I wasn't talking about your comments, in general people talk badly of the trix (I always see commentaren calling them b***es) and no one says shiz (Yes I really did say shiz and not s***) to them. So why am I the only one getting called out for it? And yes the trix insults are on this site, just on different episodes. Look back at episode 3 this girl calls the trix stupid, ugly, ect so I ask them to stop and I get called ugly and what not. The whole Bloom fandom is getting to me right now and I would love for someone to toon me that I'm not going to get bashed every time I say I like Icy meer than Bloom. It literally has gotten to the point where I see Bloom fans and think "Great another person who is going to yell at me for my opinions."
User 5: SHUT UP BLOOM HATERS BLOOM DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO U DUMBHEAdS (Yes, at this point I did have 3 people going at me at once. It was very unpleasant…like all of these people against me and not one person to support me and tell me it was okay. That hurts.)
User 6: Wth people? Stop hating on Bloom and get a life, u idiots. If u don't like her stop watching this show! She has the brand dragon power, obviously she needs most of the attention. Gosh, she's not the one who's making the show, which means that she doesn't decide what people have to do for the show. She's just acting for the show. -.- Gosh, people these days...
Me: Well since u asked so 'nicely' I don't think I will. Calling me an idiot for my opinions won't change them, in fact it only makes me hate her more. Yeah I get it she's the main character; Harry Potter is a main character but we still got a whole backstory on Luna! Of course she doesn't make decisions, she not real! Which means she can't get offended door name calling, unlike those who u just called idiots. I know right, people these days, calling real people names for not liking a character.
User 7: Well u know wat we don't care bout ur mean hurtful opinions ok wer just telling U dont post it all over the Internet so it could hurt other bloom lovers ok and that goes for all haters keep it to urselves qand think before u open ur big hurtful mouths ok m just trying to make peace conversation,OVER!
Me: For one I think calling a real person a ‘dumbhead’ is meer hurtful than saying I don't like a character that isn't even real! I have just as much right to post my opinions as u do. And I refuse to stop posting commentaren like that about Bloom until people stop doing that with Icy. I sat back and let it go for a while but I am sick of it being okay to insult the trix but horrid to insult Bloom. I'm sorry for offending u guys, but try to understand where I'm coming from please.
User 8: Guys!we shouldnot say bad things about bloom. Shes not real. Shes just a cartoon. Go and complain to the pepole who made her
User 7: Someone understands me.finally. Thank u *insert username*. U feel my pain.
Me: Do u know how many people say stuff like I did about Bloom about Icy? u don't see me calling them dumbheads for it. Im sorry for snapping at u guys but Im sick of getting called, stupid, idiot, ect for saying I don't like Bloom. Thats it, that's all I zei on episode 3 and I had this user call me ugly and this has happened before that to. This just finally made me snap. If everyone leaves me alone and stops insulting my favoriete character I'll do the same for you. (And then finally someone stepped in and told them to knock it off and leave me alone. I think it was actually the user who uploaded the episode. So kudos to him for being a helping hand. After this they cut it out.)
Here’s another good one:
User 1: Bloom is so stuckup, and she just wants attention.
User 2: SHUT UP *poor user getting insulted* AND GET YO A** BACK TO FOREVER 21! (I actually did stick up for this girl—again it’s one thing to call a feeling-less character stuck up and another to say something like the above to a real person.)
Me: I know right, she a bad character. Ignore the rabid Bloom fan, they get so defensive and rude when people don't like Bloom. They insult the Trix and what not all the time so they have no right to get all crazy when someone does the same to Bloom. (Will I admit, that was a bit harsh towards Bloom fans, yes. But this happened only an uur after that other argument fell short.)
User 3: THE TRIX CALLED US EARTH PEOPLE PATHETIC WHAT IF SOMEONE THAT WASNT FROM EARTH CALLED US PATHETIC
Me: With commentaren like these and so many people yelling at me for insulting a character that isn't even real I almost feel complied to agree with her... >.>
User 3: because im a bloom fan. and she is nice and she comes up with good ideas. cuz some earth people are nice.
Me: Most people on Earth are nice, but on this video, not many people have been particularly kind to me.
User 3: BECAUSE U ARE INSULTING BLOOM AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE LOVE BLOOM!!! (At this point I was 101% done as the double standards—people can talk crap about the trix but not Bloom—killed a part of my sanity)
And for the stuff I mentioned on episode 3:
User 1: I got some new names for trix : Icy's : idiot. Darcy : dummy. Stormy : stupid :-D lolz
Me: Icy = Better than the whiney melodramatic Bloom, Darcy = Better than overly sweet and sugary Flora and Stormy = Better than the prissy bratty Stella. Lolz :D :D :D Hate that Ugly Bloom, run away, she's so ugly. No seriously, immaturity aside why is it okay to make commentaren like this about the Trix and not about the Winx? Like I know I'm going to get whined at for the above comment, but no one ever says anything when the Trix are insulted like so...(okay not my best handling of a situation, I think I kind of zei that with the ‘immaturity aside thing’ but at least I stuck to just insulting characters and not real people, that counts for something right?)
Anyhow another 3rd party person comes and leaves me with the following words; User 2: bloom is not ugly maybe your the most ugly thing ever
Very-kind-uploader: u know all u needed to say is "I Disagree with your opinion."
Me: thanks for proving my point; that this fandom is biased in the fact that it's okay to insult the Trix and call them ugly, but gosh forbid if poor Bloom is insulted the world will fall to pieces.
User 3: I felt tired when I read your comment
User 4: Please don't watch Winx Club cause your not capable to watch it. What's the problem with Bloom? and u ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM please don't give me negative stemmen because it's the truth specially who are u to judge?
Me: Please don't make commentaren on youtube because u are not mature enough to do so. If I'm incapable of watching the toon do explain how I'm doing it right now. My problem with Bloom is her fans (like you). I don't have to like Bloom, what don't u all understand about that? I have the right to say I don't like her, that's my opinion get over it. And if u think u can tell me who to like, get over yourself. Who are u to judge me, based on my choice in characters? And yes, I will give u negative stemmen for the personal attack. (Again, I do admit, this wasn’t my best handling of a situation)
User 5: u SUCK
User 6: That YOUR opinion! And did u know your commentaar got too many negative votes? XDDDDD
Me: Yeah I noticed that. Funny how many double standards are put in place. Like if someone yells at u for stating an opinion and calls u stupid for stating an opinion they get a crap ton of thumbs up. And when the poor person who got sick of being bullied speaks up for herself she gets a crap ton of negative votes. Only serves to prove my point. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm taking anything out on u of anything. I just don't get how people think they can just say rude things to me and expect me to keep being nice.
User 6: well u were being rude the the commentaar before some people like bloom
Me: See there's a huge double standard here then; no one can insult Bloom without getting insulted. But everyone insults the Trix and no one gives them a hassle. I have just as much of a right to say what I want about Bloom as people do the Trix. Do u know how many times I've seen people calling one of the Trix 'b***' at least I didn't say such about Bloom.
User 6: they can say what they want the trix are evil and mean XP
Me: I just feel like if they can say what they want about the Trix, I can say what I please about Bloom. Of course that stuff will get a crap load of negative votes, but oh well.
I think u all get the point. So what do u think? Did I deserve that of were they being unreasonable of a mix of both?
Getting back to the double standards theme; the main one u can pick up, particularly in the YouTube examples, is that it seems that it okay to call the trix 'beeotch' and 'slut' and such (because they're just fictional characters), but the moment 'I don't like/I hate Bloom' is dropped it suddenly becomes a huge crime. One that is punished with at least 3+ people personally attacking you. And that is not okay. I actually did do something of a social experiment; I took the exact; "Icy is a fugly loozer" (a commentaar that got much support and thumbs up) and replaced Icy with Bloom. Suddenly the commentaar wasn't so 'cool' of 'awesome'. It was then rude and mean and no one should say that about a character and I was riddled with insults such as "omg no ur thefugly 1!" and a mass of people agreeing.
I guess that wraps it up for now. Needless to say Bloom fans do not like me at all. It’s gotten so bad that I can’t even really look at Bloom without thinking about some of that stuff they zei to me and how I had 8 users going at me all at once. It’s really overwhelming and I can’t stress enough that it hurts. Gosh, if u ever see anyone getting ganged up on like that, speak up for them! It is also to the point where anytime I see a new user who likes Bloom I think ‘Oh God, she/he is going to hate me’. I give them a chance—some of them are nice in the end, but because of all of this stuff (that happened to me since I was like 10) I really do have problems trusting that fandom. Sorry for this rant/sob-story, had to get it off my chest.
