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why did Dumbleore trust Snape for so many years even though he didnt expect Snape still love Lily after all that time?

Dumbledore was surprised to know Snape still loved Lily. But Snape changed side 17 years geleden because of his love for Lily. If Dumbledore didnt expect Snape still loved Lily, what made him keep trusting Snape for so many years? Didnt Dumbledore think of Snape might really turn into Death eater again if his love really faded?
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bri-marie said:
Personally, I don't believe u ever stop truly loving someone. But, even if I didn't believe that, Severus still felt guilty for causing Lily's death. Regardless of his personal feelings for Lily, Severus isn't an evil man, and wouldn't just let go of causing an innocent women her life. That alone is pretty good leverage to think Severus would stay on the "good" side.

I also don't think Severus joined with Voldemort because he agreed with what Voldemort wanted. I think, much like Lucius and Wormtail, Severus wanted power, to be accepted. Once Severus saw the truth, there was no going back for him.
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Spot on, as always.
BlackHound posted een jaar geleden
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thx! u answered very quickly.*o*
ojamajoyy posted een jaar geleden
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*killed someone, especially that someone who was his best friend, and the only girl he truly loved.
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PotionsMistress said:
It was not only a matter of love and guilt, but also a matter of gratitude, loyalty and sense of belonging. Severus was grateful to Dumbledore for the seconde chance he gave him, for trusting him, for giving him something worth living and fighting for. Dumbledore trusted him - that was meer than Severus could ever hope for ,after what he had done! He gave him a new home, somewhere to belong to, he accepted him and did his best to make others accept him. Dumbledore in fact gave Severus a new life and Severus must have had a kind of filial love for him.
I know that many of u think ill of Dumbledore because of his manipulativeness and the fact that he used both Harry and Severus. I hate this fact too. But that was dark time, that was a war, and Dumbledore was a general who had to win a war. And the general must be able to sacrifice his soldiers otherwise he'll never win...
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I love the points u made about loyalty. Alan Rickman talked about this particular point, loyalty, in an interview about the final movie. I think it can be a mix of all this : love, guilt, friendship, loyalty, duty. Which defines Severus quite well.
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I believe that he did, very much, but there are some who will insist that he didn't. It's a matter of interpretation, I guess. What we choose to believe.
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Severus respected Dumbledore until the very end.He knew Dumbledore used him,but he still respected Dumbledore.Dumbledore worried about Severus's safety,but he still used Severus for the Greater Good.The relationship between them was very complicated.
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LadyNottingham said:
Dumbledore was surprised that Severus still loved Lily "after all these years". However, when he had gotten Severus' allegiance, Severus was still pretty much deeply in love with her.

Besides, guilt is a powerful tool and Dumbledore, the ever manipulative, used it to his full advantage. Severus felt guilty and that was enough.

In my own opinion, I'd like to imagine that behind the "Anything" that Severus promised to Dumbledore, he was asked to make an Unbreakable Vow with Dumbledore - which would explain why Dumbledore had replied to Harry he trusted Severus fully. Severus would have pledged with his life to do anything the Headmaster would required of him. Plus add love and guilt and u have a perfectly obedient Potions Master turned spy for the Order of the Phoenix.

Poor Severus...
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But if Dumbledore secured Severus' "loyalty" like that, then all the "I trust Severus Snape" means absolutely nothing, and Severus' loyalty isn't loyalty at all. I think if there had been an Unbreakable Vow, Severus would never have argued with Dumbledore when it came to the "Final Request", and Severus certainly wouldn't have felt bad for killing the bastard. Sod love and guilt, if you've got the man bound to u with the Unbreakable Vow, u don't NEED love and guilt. Makes it all kind of...empty to me. Worthless. **shrugs** What a waste of a life.
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"His greatest pawns were the ones he loved the most, in the end." Oh yes. However, like Luna zei (I love that quote of hers) : "The things we lose have a way of coming back to us in the end. If not always in the way we expect." The scene in the final movie, when Harry sees his beloved ones + Severus' memories sent me back to that quote. He had lost a lot but in the end, things had come back to him, one way of the other. But I digress.
LadyNottingham posted een jaar geleden
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And sometimes in the digressions we find our points. :p I believe if there had been another way for Voldemort to be brought down, Dumbledore would have chosen it, just as Gandalf would have taken a different route to the destruction of the One Ring & Sauron's demise if he could have...Heh--I must be digressing too.
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