Just watch DEATH BATTLE: Shadow vs. Vegeta. Vegeta wins. (Sorry 4 being a spoiler XD)

Its ok I agree that Vegeta win and I already watch the Death battle I like both Charaters but Vegeta would win this fight He doesn't even need a Super Saiyan too beat Shadow

Shadow can freeze time, which the Death Battle hosts forgot to let him do. Plus, he could teleport inside Vegeta and rip out his heart and brain. He could also just go back in time and kill Vegeta's parents, or convince his mother to get an abortion. Shadow is also quite obviously immune to any form of energy output, as he survives explosions, sonic shockwaves, extreme heat and cold, ridiculous amounts of speed and friction, poisonous radiation, dark energy surrounding him, fire, and electricity. That means the energy blast Vegeta finished Shadow off with should in no way have worked. And the REAL Shadow is smart enough to teleport Vegeta somewhere deadly, like the core of the Earth, or the Sun, not somewhere as pathetic as the ocean or moon. So, Shadow would win if you take REAL LOGIC into account.

You need to stop Vegeta its not human he a Saiyan Wow you still talking about the little moon LOL even master roshi's can destroy that HA HA HA Vegeta can destroy planets Shadow cant plus Vegeta final flash destroy the solar system only with his Super Saiyan 1 its stronger than Gohan Super Saiyan 2 kamehameha and Goku spirit bomb Shadow Super form isn't on Vegeta level and Chaos Contorl wont work I tell you that Freiza have the incibility freeze time like Chaos Contorl and he get out of it by the way your comment still dont make sense

It makes more sense than yours, because it was spelled correctly.

Yeah "rip out his heart and brain" that doesn't make sense all you doing its judging the character

"rip out his heart and brain" would be quite simply defined as tearing the heart and brain of someone from their proper places, resulting in the death of the individual who no longer has a heart or brain.

Like I said Vegeta its not human he a Saiyan learn before you start saying thing also Shadow cant destroy the planet like Vegeta Shadow can not win or survive against Vegeta

Stop arguing you too! And I can understand both your theories. Just please stop arguing. The only way to figure this out is to just ask the Shadow and Vegeta RPs themselves.

And P.S. Legit, just use periods for people can understand you. :-)

Hehe. You have no idea, do you? We've got a 79 comment long debate in session on my wall. And am I misunderstanding the use of you saying "RPs"? Because the only use for that abbreviation I know is Role Play, but that doesn't make much sense. P.S. Vegeta couldn't exist if Shadow went back in time and killed Vegeta's virgin parents.

Sorry LGYCE. And RP also means Role Players. The last sentence is true, ya, but do you and Legit hate each other? And I was a bit offended at the No idea sentence. /:-/

And if your really sure about that theory, back it up with evidence. Not trying to be mean yo.

@LYGCE, I saw your 79 comment argument. Very valid points. But this is an opinion question right? It's what you, the public, think. This poll ain't a quiz question. It seems that @Legithedgehog left the argument a WHILE ago.

I didn't mean to offend you, it just seemed funny to me that we've been arguing for God knows how long, and then you tell us to stop, just like that. Sorry it offended you, though. And me and Legit don't hate each other, in fact we're both actually fans of the other one. We just have different points of view. And about my theory, how could ANYONE possibly exist without parents to conceive and bear him/her? That "theory" is based on proven logic and common knowledge.

It's okay. Well it's all fake anyways. After all, we don't even know who Amy's parents are!

And I'm giving Legit a week to respond, then I'm going to consider myself the winner if he can't come up with anything else to prove me wrong with.

I can't believe one of my comments actually started this hellfire DX.

And I know it's fake, but fake stuff makes the most money, so it shouldn't be dismissed that easily. Actors are paid more than most doctors.

Wow, we posted at the same time.

If I wasn't doing this with you, I'd be doing it with Legit. Don't blame yourself.

True dat. How's life as a Silver Role Player?

I post at the same time as others an uncanny amount.

The Role Playing is AWESOME! And I learned through experience that you aren't allowed to kill other characters.

25 comments in 7 hours. This has been fast.

*smirk* True. I have been assigned the role of Marine. It was kinda of weird 'cause people kept on asking me odd questions VIA inbox. One asked "Do you love Tails or Charmy?" Course I didn't know what to say, but I picked Tails cause all the other little ladies like him. O__^

And their mostly chat comments, so yeah. Time does go by fast.

I called Legit down by posting my request on his wall.

Do you know Vegeta was flying around in space without even trying Go learn do your research do you ever heat that Vegeta is the planet buster I already told you freiza have incibility to freeze time like Chaos control wont work duh!!! Can Shadow destory a planet NO! can Shadow destory the solar system NO! Learn about DBZ before you says anything oh by the way space is time they all the same

Whoa. That was a sudden outburst. -_-' Uh Legit? Who exactly, pray tell, are you talking to? And if I wasted some of your time, sorry. XD. (Me no know why I put that face O__O)

You know

Space and time are NOT the same. Space is empty volume through which entities can move. Time is the flow of happening in order so that things occur chronologically. And you don't have to be able to destroy a planet to win. Hell, the Empire had a weapon that could destroy planets, and a farm kid came and destroyed it and killed the great Lord Vader. Plus, that doesn't in the slightest stop Shadow from killing Vegeta's virgin parents in the past.

...........just watching from the sidelines, *has medical kit just in case things get brutal* and sorry Legit, I didn't know why I put that....

Eh. I like brutal. And besides, this is fun.

To Legit it might not be.....by his comment language of course. Besides, if you need me OR if I see things get outta hand, I'm staying here. So, I will JOIN THE FIGHT ON VEGETA WITH MY DBZ knowledge! And we are all still friends BTW, no matter what we say. ^_~

Okay. So how would Vegeta win without ever being born?

Without space you cant use Chaos control the Empire had 6 of the 7 Chaos emeralds not powerful enough to destrpy one planet that still weak against DBZ villains can destroy planet with out any powers ups Empire needs so much power ups to destroy one little planet wow

Well, it's possible that he had some powers when he was a kid and he could've saved himself by pausing the moment and kicking Shadow's butt. Also, I can agree with the point that Shadow can use Chaos Control, BUT only with a Chaos Emerald. What if he didn't have one? Then Vegeta could've fought him. =_= *does wise person face*

Me and Legit posted at the same time. Wowza,

See this What Im mean you dont make sense how you use chaos control without space

It's kind of weird being on a boy's team when you're a girl. Especially against another boy. Yeah, if you didn't check my profile, I'm a girl! Ur probably gonna kick me out now right? Cause that's what some other club people from other clubs do to me. >_<

And, Legit, you can use Chaos control on the ground. So you kinda just backfired us. -_-' But I shall rebel! *triumphant face* Vegeta can go Super Saiyan WITHOUT any emeralds, mind you. Shadow needs an emerald. See how important the Chaos Emeralds are? Shadow can't go super, use Chaos Control, Chaos Blast, or any emerald-conducting attacks without one. So then, Vegeta could attack Shadow. And yes, Vegeta has the potential to destroy planets, as he did in one episode when he threatened to get rid of Earth.

I know but I was talking about LGYCE

Yeah but Shadow needs space timeline to control time in space he saying him.self in Sonic 06

Oh. But LYGCE should know that Vegeta can wipe out a nation if he could. And Shadow may be the Ultimate Life Form, but he's only a hedgie. Who needs guns & a shitty emerald to do his work. But he's still awesome as anime! :3

Where is LYGCE anyway? Oops. I spelled his name wrong. And yeah Legit, Shadow needs space to travel. Just looked it up. Also, Vegeta can manipulate matter as we know it. He can also (most likely) call other Saiyans to help him in battle. Shadow's an emo. No one really understands the poor guy.

I tall him like a 10000 times he doesn't listen he dont makes sense

Merp Derp. WOW! I have to go! Good Luck with the quarrel! BYE!

@LGYCE how you can control timeline with out space to used Chaos control you dont make fucking sense bitch I watch DBZ Vegeta can destroy planets Shadow the another's hands cant Go learn about DBZ bitch you going to far insult others that doesn't make you win faggot

Plus Shadow never did those things Stop making stuff up dumb-ass that proof you lost I can see your wall the 79 comments its Seem Legit its winning because you saying things are made up I play all the Sonic Games Shadow never did those things

Whoa @Nightmare64, I HIGHLY doubt you've played all the Sonic games. Don't start lying and calling people bitches. And have you read all of the over 200 issues of the Archie Comics? No! I don't think so. Me and Legit wouldn't even dare say those things about LGYCE. You have Sonic Lost World? You have Sonic Adventure? Sonic Riders Zero Gravity? Sonic Rush Adventure? Sonic and the Black Night? Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing? Probably not! Your seriously getting on my nerves. I agree with you on Vegeta, but no harshness. Stop lying and get your facts straight goddamn it! I HATE IT WHEN SNOOBS DO THIS! Maybe all the bullshit you're saying is made-up huh?!?!?! DX DX DX DX /:-(

And no wonder you have only 1 pathetic fan! I feel sorry for the guy/girl who decided to fan your conniving ass! Now how about shut the fuck up and get your head out of Shitland????? Oh yeah! Your the owner of it! DX DX DX >_< !!!!!!! Now, apologize to LGYCE! At least Legit didn't cuss at him like a bitch like you would! Your ticking me off the charts! And again, I doubt you have every Sonic game! Are you made of gold? Does money grow on trees for you? Do you suck on a silver spoon? FUCK YOU! *pulls up middle-finger* and lastly, to say to you, we both joined at the same time and I got more fans back than you would ever get in a lifetime! God knows you probably live in a castle while my parents and I live in a rented apartment!!!!! Think LGYCE is still a bitch when you are the REAL ONE???? Tell me the names of all the Sonic characters and their games now! Oh wait, you don't know! Guess what? I bet you don't know SHIT about Shadow! Go suck a dick and fuck yourself! >_<!!!!!!!

@Hellowittykitty Archie Sonic are not canon Chaos control only Freeze time or slow time but its doesn't do the things that you never born Sonic Adventure Sonic Rush Adventure Sonic lost world its a rip off a mario game Sonic Zero Galaxy Sonic and all stars they both Racing games Sonic and the black night game Shadow its Sir Lancelot is Vegeta you want me too tall you about Vegeta? So I can proof you wrong too?

Shadow its not in Sonic Adventure and Ruse or lost world

Well I'm sorry. I just lose it when people cuss at others (I'm a hypocrite yeah.) And I'm sorry again. Bit offended at the way you scolded my pal though. Friends???? *puppy eyes* XD and, if I hurt you in anyway mentally, it's just........I have a temper when people cuss at other people. Exactly like how I explained before. Sorry for all the commotion. Been having a rough day.......*sighs longingly*

Uhhh There its no reason to be Sorry its ok

If you say so. I take back everything I said too. So, who's your fav Sonic character? (You can pick from the Archie's too.)

Shadow and Silver there are my favorites

I like Blaze & Mina!

@Nightmare64 Thanks you for give him facts he doesn't listen dont matter how much times I tell him

@Hellowittykitty I like them too and @Legit I know he a idiot

He doesn't understand the facts is Vegeta can Kill Shadow he doesn't even needs a Super Sayian too beat Shadow Super form he said that Shadow can rip out his heart and brain how that he can do that his hits wont even takes no demands too Vegeta that doesnt make any sense

LOL Sonicfanboys they needs too learn Vegeta can destroy the planets with out a single powers up

Yeah, they need Chaos Emeralds and all Vegeta needs to do is get angry. But we shouldn't be talking behind his back.

Just read that whole mess above. (Btw thanks Wittykitty) So, ripping out a heart and brain does NOT require hits doing damage. I've explained that Shadow would use Chaos Control (or Chaos Warp if he had no Emerald) and teleport INSIDE Vegeta and destroy him from the inside. It could happen, Shadow's a lot smaller. Plus, Legit, you obviously know nothing about Star Wars. When I said the Empire had a planet-destroying machine, I meant the DEATH STAR! I was just saying that a farm kid (Luke Skywalker) destroyed this massive weapon without any power-ups or anything. So being able to destroy a planet doesn't help Vegeta's case. And about Vegeta having powers when he was young, and beating Shadow then, I said that Shadow would go back in time to when Vegeta's parents were virgins, and kill them. That way, Vegeta would never even exist in the first place. Plus, about Shadow not having Emeralds, he could promise himself that on some night in the future, he collects all the Emeralds, and goes back in time and gives them to his present self. So, he could easily have every Emerald. Dominance over time and space is what Chaos Control is, so Shadow can control the use of time and space. (Space is defined for this purpose as empty volume through which entities can move) Controlling time and space includes 1. Time freezing 2. Time slowing 3. Time travel 4. Teleportation 5. Extreme power increase 6. Any level of speed imaginable 7. Restricting others from moving through time or space. None of these or any of Shadow's other powers can be resisted by Vegeta, as he is unfamiliar with Chaos Power. Also, all of Shadow's immunities I listed HAVE been proven; Explosions: Shadow The Hedgehog. Sonic shockwaves: Sonic 06. Extreme heat and cold: SA2. Fire: SA2. Speed and friction: All Sonic games with Shadow. Radiation: Shadow The Hedgehog. I forgot the others, but you get the point.

@Nightmare64 At least I'm not as much of an idiot as you. 2 of Vegeta's 3 supporters don't even know how to spell or use grammar, and you are one of them. "I know he a idiot" Seriously.

You still not listing SA2 he only used Chaos control Chaos warp were the hall that? from Shadow only teleport freeze time or Slow time listen to the stroy Shadow says he control time in space with choas control I dont know were you getting this information You just make stuff up that doesn't even exist in the Games Vegeta Can destroy the planet does helps I just look at the 'DEATH STAR' you talking about Sonic X isn't canon Empire canon had 6 Of the 7 chaos emeralds takes time to destroy one planet Vegeta can destroy that with out even trying Shadow never cant teleport inside where you see Shadow do that? You making things up he never do those things Shadow level isn't planet buster level Plus Vegeta destroy the solar system thats a big problem for Shadow to handled Sonic villains all not strong enough immediately to destroy the planet unlike freiza and vegeta DEATH STAR you talking about that little star Freiza destroy the planet shot the little stars

Shadow only use chaos control on space timeline

GODAMMIT!!!!!! DX DX DX ALL OF YOU STOP THE ARGUING! JUST DROP THE DAMN CASE! I MAY BE A LADY, BUT I KNOW HOW TO SHUT PEOPLE UP!!!!! NOW EVERYONE SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!!!

I like all of you, including @Nightmare64, even though I cussed the living hell out of him. Legit, Nightmare, and LGYCE. Please stop. I despise, no, HATE it when people argue. Trust me, being House Leader of all 4 houses in the entire school and listening to kids' problems from 5-10th ain't easy. I have had experience. Guys, if you even are ones, just stop being so mean and rowdy. Oh, and if one of you are going to say: "You're a woman, you don't understand men affairs." Then go fuck a ass and read some hentai. *tries to calm down but is utterly pissed* -_-" Lastly, to counter BOTH Shadow and Vegeta......IT COULD POSSIBLY BE A DAMN TIE! Have any of you every thought about this? I highly doubt it now that I put it in your little skulls. /:-S

Why would I stop arguing? I love doing this. The argument started when I posted on Mario's wall saying Sonic was better, but none of the Mario fans responded. So it went to Sonic VS Goku, then Shadow VS Goku, and now Shadow VS Vegeta. I fucking love debates.(God, I'd make a great politician) And it couldn't be a tie, because if they tied then Shadow would proceed to remove his Inhibitor Rings and beat the hell out of Vegeta. And if Vegeta can survive what thousands of Mephili can't, then Shadow would travel through time and kill Vegeta's virgin parents. @Legithedgehog Shadow didn't say he could "control time in space", he said he could "control time AND space". Although you thinking otherwise makes me understand why you were so convinced on other wrong points. And the Death Star being Sonic X canon, for God's sake. IT IS FUCKING STAR WARS! THE FRANCHISE THAT HAS A SEVENTH MOVIE IN DEVELOPMENT! THE ONE THAT GOT IT'S OWN SECTION IN GUINESS WORLD RECORDS 2013! And they didn't use a single Chaos Emerald, yet they destroyed a planet. Learn about Star Wars before you speak of the Death Star again. And sorry about Chaos Warp, I meant Chaos Snap, Shadow's form of teleportation in Sonic 06.

Whoa. Now you're pissed at me? I was just asking for this to end, and I'm really glad you guys didn't get so aggressive. Anyways, with such a rebelling counter, I would have to agree that you would be a great politician and/or lawyer. Well done! *claps and cheers* P.S., you might have to barricade your wall and this poll because Nightmare and Legit might come for revenge. Why are you guys even talking about Star Wars? That has nothing to do with Vegeta or Shadow. Is this the continuation of a previous argument that has been carried on from another site? Oh, any other fans who voted, (besides us 4) should comment so we can know what you others think too! XD

Who the fluff is Vagin- I mean Vegeta?

@LGYCE LOL do you know if that Shadow would use his rings that well be useless getting runout his energy than what Vegeta kills him easily listen the stroy Sonic 06 he saying him self in the fight with Silver and No Sonic shows Sonic anime and Sonic X isn't canon just to make you know only the Sonic games all the real canon Star wars I dont watch that anymore Chaos Snap? Theses no Chaos Shap I play Sonic 06 you just made it up wow been a long time to watch star wars than why you talking about it here because have nothing to do with Shadow club so I dont know why ya two talking about it Space its part of time there no space than he cant freeze or slow time with out space thats what Im mean Shadow use that power to freeze or slow you down Shadow using combat for both of them

@number1tails fan, Vegeta is the prince of the Saiyans race and is one of the main protagonist or antagonist in the Dragon Ball Z-Kai series. We are all arguing about who would win: Shadow or Vegeta! And right now, it's a damn tie! -_-"

I dont even care about the numbers dont matter its how strong they are

And Vegeta its one of them

True Legit. Vegeta is a bit stronger than Shadow. He can get a 1000% percent power increase if he goes Super Saiyan. I wonder who else voted.....they should comment.

@Hellowittykitty I wasn't pissed. I was just saying I start debates for fun, and have no reason to stop. Also, both of you, the Star Wars was because Legit said Vegeta would win because he could destroy planets. I was making a reference to prove that his point meant nothing because a farm kid destroyed a planet-destroying weapon. About Chaos Snap; You did PLAY Sonic 06, right Legit? Because if you actually READ the descriptions of the items you purchase, than you would see that the blue Memory Shard unlocks Chaos Boost and the ability to use Chaos Snap while Chaos Boost is engaged. I know only the games are canon, which is why WE DON'T KNOW how long he can go with his power increase without his rings, because in Sonic 06 he took them off and started killing Mephili, and the next cutscene we saw about him was him putting the rings back on after taking an undisclosed amount of time. Space is defined as empty intangible volume through which entities may pass through. Shadow may not be able to use Chaos Control without it, but Vegeta sure as hell couldn't move either. And if you mean OUTER SPACE, then you're wrong, because Shadow has used Chaos Control on Mobius' surface many times. Space and time are seperate, and I have them defined above. And if you don't care about the numbers, then you shouldn't have made this poll.

Do you ever heat what I said Vegeta destroy the salor system not just the planets Vegeta destroy the salor system besides Vegeta destroy planets its a big problem for Shadow plus Vegeta destroy the salor system even bigger problem for Shadow he can't not win Salor system>Space>Time Chaos boost Chaos snap those are game mechanic if you dont know that mean (its non canon) so Shadow cant use those even is canon its be useless would the reason why I poll this because I want make them learn about DBZ they can beat Sonic characters easily you can say bye bye Sonic characters can beat Mario characters but not DBZ characters you will be out of your mind if you Think that Sonic characters can beat DBZ Characters hack even frieza would own Shadow frieza>>>>>Sup­­­e­r Shadow LOL let alone Vegeta base form even stronger than frieza last form Teen Gohan>>>>>Su­p­­e­­r Shadow WOW LOOOOOL XD Vegeta>>>>>S­­up­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­e­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­r Shadow destroy

I know that Shadow had lost DeathBattle [ love those vids] but I'm just warming up to the Dragon Ball Z charecters.... I've known the Sonic gang since I was little, hell, my dad played the game infront of me... when he was still married to my real mom...

@Legithedgehog Amazingly, it wouldn't matter if any of these characters you mentioned are more powerful, because Shadow has all the time in ever to kill their virgin parents, thus causing all of them to have never existed in the first place.

.........-_-" This poll already has 83 comments. I really feel like I started the whole thing by just commenting about Death Battle. I started a 83 comment argument......neat. And everyone should know this is just an opinion question right? A poll!

Yep! And I agree with the current majority. And it feels sort of fun starting long complex arguments, doesn't it? I've had 4 photos posted just because of things I've said.

Eh it's kinda fun. And @lormel, what happened to your real mom? Sorry if I'm dimming the mood here. |X-S

lolosuck

I'm just gonna correct some points I saw in the arguments regarding Shadow.

According to Sonic Battle, all Shadow needs in order ro Chaos control is simply the memory of Maria. Hd doesn't need no damn fourth chaos emerald.

Shadow, being a hedgehog, is capable of withstanding an unlimited amount of energy surging through his body. Why? Because, since he's a hedgehog, he can go super form. Thus, Vegetable's energy attacks won't work on him.

Shadow can freeze time without any chaos emeralds, but he needs two with two different weilders in order to go BACK in time by using the emeralds.

Also, Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform. It may not soundlke much, but consider the fact that he, along with two other hedgehogs killed... wait for it... GOD. Yeah, remember Solaris from Sonic '06? God. And he was decimated. Now, with a third of that power, I believe Shadow stands a chance.

Shadow can also use anything as a weapon, (though it's kinda urrelevant against Vegeta,) but listen here: nonly is Shadow able to withstand Vegeta's attacks, but he can also absorb them and use the energy against Vegetable. How? Ki and Chaos Energy are both natural. All the Chaos Emeralds do is amplify the energy placed into them, creating an unlimited source of energy. Shadow can absorb this Chaos Energy and then output the energy against Vegetable. Of course, theoretically, this means that Vegtable is not only immune to Shadow's energy attacks, but can also use the Chaos Emeralds.

Freezer may have been able to freeze time, but when time is frozen, did you even stop to consider how fast a person must be moving in order to stop time and still move? Now, consider what would happen to Vegetable if Shadow so much as touched Vegeta during the time he's frozen in time, given Shadow would be moving faster than time. (Think about what a bullet does to skin simulation gel.) Sure, Vegeta can get out of it, but how long did it take him to? By the time he manages to break out, Vegeta would be dead, twirling Vegeta's brain around his middle finger would be Shadow.

Also, if Shadow went back in time to kill Vegetable's parents, he'd create a time paradox. This would stop the fight for an indefinite amount of time. Unles everything beyond the point Shadow travels to becomes erased and all of time must be re-written from that point on. Then and only then can a time paradox not be created. Of course, Shadow doesn't age, so he can just wait the 30-something years and win by default.

And that's my take on it, bringing science into fiction. Lgyce, I've got your back on this (if the argument hasn't finished... in which case I would be pitifully late...)

Thats proof show you dont know nothing about Vegeta He destroy the solar system can Shadow destroy that I dont think so Vegeta doesn't even need a Super Saiyan too beat Shadow his hits wont takes no damages Shadow only survive against solars he got help with Sonic and Silver one of them alone well annihilated Solars weak against bills and wiss Solars only destroy the dimensions bills can destroy the galaxy that above just destroy those little dimensions LOL Ki energy its more powerful than chaos energy ki can destroy solar systems galaxys stars and planets chaos energy cant not do that Vegeta Ki is metaphysical and the persons ki grows stonger as well and since the body can be come infinitly stronger so does Ki you think Saiyans cant breath in space? Goku dad and vegeta when out of space that proofs saiyans can breath in space masters babidi has the powers to teleport with his magic out of space along with Goku and Vegeta and they both can breath and Saiyans dont age either if you full blood it Chaos energy? that wont do anything to Vegeta except only tickles him LOL plus he doesn't have no weakpoints

Okay, news flash: if shadow can't breathe in space, explain to me the battle in space between sonic and shadow outside of ark. Consider that argument pointless.

Also, just because shadow isn't a cocky orphan who believes he desrves everything because he's a prince, and he hasn't destroyed a solar system doesn't mean he can't. In the same way, just because you haven't hit peuberty yet doesn't mean you won't, and that applies to me too.

Also, you sound like a parent, saying "I'm big, you're small, so I'm right." But you haven't adressed, let alone argued against, what I've presented. Try doing that, instead of bringing up the same piece of evidence. (Is it really evidence?)

And sure, Sayains get stronger every time they nearly die, but there's a difference between nearly-dead and dead.

Oh, and more evidence. Read all about it. I'm sure you'll find it interesting.

link

This one is not the official profile. Why? Because the official one is in Jaoanses, and this one is simply a translation of that profile with only added sidebar commonly agreed on speculations.

Now, here, it states that Shadow is extremely resilient, like Vegetable. He can also recover quickly, like Vegetable. But he is immortal. He cannot swim, but cannit drown. The only reason he "dies" in the games is to keep the core experience if a Sonic game. Much like how Cell can beat Gohan in tge DBZ fighting games. So,iif you were going to bring that up, your welcome on saving us all some valuabke time of our lives. (I hate this small keyboard and pissy browser...)

Lastly, like I've mentioned before, becayse both energies are natural, Shadow's super form can be elongated by Vegetable's ki attacks. Now, if what you say is true, about ki being stronger thsn chaos energy, then Shadow simply becomes impervious to damage (aka, even more immortal than before) because he absorbs Shadow's ki because it's natural energy. Because of this, Sonic and Silver can also absorb Vegetable's ki, but the others cannot.

No he cant not destroy the Solar system the fact is in SA2 eggman use 6 of the 7 chaos emeralds only destroy the have the moon master roshi the weaken DBZ characters destroy the moon with one shot you still think chaos energy its stronger than ki? you out of your mind and I never say that Sonic and Shadow cant breather in space DBZ villains are powerful than you think it is even the wiki say Super form have time limit Still can not kills Vegeta Shadow cant even destroy the planet Teen Gohan well own Shadow he beat cell the guy is solar system buster level Gohan beat him hack he well own Shadow and Sonic universe's and you think Im lying?

SEGA saying themselves Sonic characters only go slow light speed Vegeta other hand he can go fast light speed Teen Gohan was holding back against cell he wasn't even use his full power Ki is more powerful than chaos energy because DBZ characters holding back they powers

Lying? You said that, not me. Now, those are all very valid points.

But I said IF Ki was stronger than chaos energy, they are still both natural energy. Shadow can absorb the energy of the chaos emeralds because it is natural energy. If you say thst Shadow cannot absorb ki as well, you would be claiming that ki is not natural energy. Obvioudly, because ki comes from within one's self, it is natural energy. In the same way, as I've mentioned before, Vegetable can absorb Shadiw's chaos energy because ig is natural energy.

In more primitive words, they can absorb each others' energies.

Now, you said superform is limited. Well, so is the super sayain form. For the superform, it depends on the ring count. For the SS firm, it depends on the ki capacity of that person. But the superform converts rings into chaos energy, which is then burned to maintain the super form. For the SS firm, when I say ki capacity, I meant how much the user is able to produce ki compared to how much ki he/she uses to keep the SS form. Now, Vegetable's ki capacity is immense. So, he can afford to use ki whenever he flies, throws a punch, blocks, and takes a Crap to enhance all these actions. Shadow can then absorb that energy, and output the energy against Vegetable. Vegetable can then absorb that energy, and output it against Shadow as ki. The cycle continues until one of them is dead, and if you're immortal, how can you die?

So, in other words, when they battle, the massive amount of energy created would and could kill vegetable. Why? Two reasons. A, Shadow is immortal. B, because the output of the Chaos Emeralds is unlimited, the fact that Shadow can tap into their power shows that he can withstand a limitless amount of power in his body, unlike Vegeta, who has a limit to how much his body can make ki and how much it can hold in. Ki capacity.

Of course, those last two paragraphs were just absolute blabber and speculation. Maybe Shadiw can't win against Vegeta, but because he can't die, he can't lose. Vegeta can pummel him into the ground as much as he wants, but until Shadow dies, which he won't,

Vegetable will not win. Maybe Shadow won't, but vegetable won't.

Now, I need to go to sleep to go to school tomorrow. If you've anything else to say, I'll read it, snd pummel it inyo the ground... later on today, since it's 3.55A where I'm at... Toodles. ^-^

-Prowd

Btw, I was writing all that while you write that secobd one. Let's see what we have here...

Maybe, but as Goku said, he WAS NOT HOLDING BACK while fighting cell. It only seemed that way because since Gohan can go much faster and is more powerful (and was afraid of it) he saw them as slow. You see, they aren't always holding back.

Now, I'll give you an example of holding back.

Fir twenty years straight, Sonic has defeated Dr. R, and counting. Every time, he's gotten away (exceot fir Sonic Generations... I guess... how'd he get out of limbo?) Anyways, for 10 years straight Sgadow has stopped Eggman. With all these defeats, Sonic and Shadow have BOTH let him escape time and time again. For ten years, Shadow has had chance after chance to kill Dr. R, but he hasn't, but he knows he should because he's supposed to save humanity.

THAT, my friend, is holding back.

Now yes, Goku holds back and lets Freezer charge up snd transform and whatnot. Well, same convept. That, my ruval, is holding back.

And Vegeta as a kid saiyan saga he destroy the planet with the weak blast and is not even that big blast its small he destroy with one shot

All right go to sleep but you think Silver psychkinesis can beat against Ki please you know DBZ characters can use psychkinesis too you should listen to the story shenron the dragon say if you die two times you would never wish back to life so Goku and Vegeta die like two times and they still alive just because Shadow is immortal that dont mean he invincible he still can die borly destroy the galaxy with a weak Super saiyan after buu saga Ki becomes infinite energy Ki its life-force energy so there is no limit on Ki Chaos energy does in SA2 Sonic tall Shadow he need it rest that proof Super form has limit garlic jr saga gerlic jr is immortal he has all the dragonballs and he wish to be immortal (and his is) he even more powerful than Shadow and kid Gohan beat him hack even kid Gohan well shit on Shadow and Sonics universe's and You know why Goku didn't hold back against cell because he know from the start that Gohan can beat cell

Good to know you can put a good argument without sounding like a broken record.

Vegetable hasn't been able to kill King Kai, has he?

As far as I'm concerned, King Kai is a god in the DBZ universe, but no one has been able to kill him, correct?

You know king kai can move light speed you know?