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The artikel is not mine I only used it cause everyone has always wrote artikels aganist Twilight how about Harry Potter now
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I finished reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows a couple of days back. In my view, the book is much meer tightly written than the last two books. And that itself is a relief. Harry Potter, Hermione Granger and Ron Weasley are much better etched out in Deathly Hallows, and there are quite a bit of surprises, disappointments, revelations.

But when someone asked me today what I thought about it, I replied, “Decent.”

Why just decent?


The book is fantasy, and just like in the case of science fiction books, fantasy boeken attempt to create a separate universe – which is very similar to ours, but with certain critical elements that operate differently. And these worlds have their their own logic, which should be consistent. The fantasy, of sci-fi, itself is an exception – and their cannot be exceptions within exceptions. Rowling sometimes fails in creating a consistent fantasy universe and the rules door which the universe works are often ad-hoc. (By the way, the Harry Potter and Deathly Hallows films are gonan be in 3D )


For example, there is the spell Accio - it brings the object u demand to you. Accio bezem brings u your broom. But this spell has been such a problem – if it works as advertised, u should be able to grab anything from anywhere. So Rowling had to introduce counter-spells, which would negate the effect of this one. So there are things that cannot be accio-ed.

Expelliarmus – One of the first spells taught to the novice wizard and witch. Almost everyone in the Harry Potter series makes liberal use of this. Unlike Accio, this always works. So even a Draco Malfoy can disarm Dumbledore – the only wizard who even Lord Voldemort fears. Is this really likely? It is a spell a kid can do – any serious wizard worth his spells should be automatically protected against this even in his sleep. With such a handy spell around, and in the middle of a massive fight like in the Central Hall of Hogwarts, there would be wizards expelliarmusing left, right and center – and no one manages to get strip Lord Voldemort of his wand! Why? In the book, there is no mention of a counter-spell against Expelliarmus. A man can operate only in 360 degrees where he is standing, and someone is bound to hit u with an Expelliarmus of an Avada Kedavra. However, no one manages to do this, even in the heat of the battle. Not even when their lives are in danger of Voldemort Avada-ing you. Why? Don’t tell me everyone wants to be a saint even when fighting Voldemort for their lives.

And then the curious direction-specificity of the spells. Often, people jump out of the way of a spell. Come on, we have read magical boeken before – and we have read Mandrake the magician too. There was never any mention, anywhere, that when a curse comes towards u in its red-or-green coloured glory (why are curses / spells coloured?) u just had to dance your way out of its way. Spells were never like that! But Mandrake andhis enemies used to hit people in the face with a mental stempel, punch – and that was direction-specific. Point your hand at the enemy, and Pow! And sometimes the enemy would save himself door jumping out of the way. So Rowling’s spells are like Mandrake’s powers.

Then, there are the idiocies of the u Know Who. Arrogance of not, no evil man worth his dark soul would confirm, doubly, that the enemy u have been tracking is indeed dead. u know, really, really check. Send a couple meer spells for good measure. Yea, sure, James Bond villains used to be quite careless about leaving Bond to his death. Voldemort seems to be in the same class.

And then in jubilation, when Harry is pretending to be dead, Voldemort uses the Cruciatus curse on him and Harry rises in the air like a rag doll. Then Voldemort drops him on the ground. Curiously, the evil wizard drops him on the ground gently – he doesn’t make Harry fall on his head and break his neck for good measure, break an arm of a leg – nothing! Have u ever fallen on your back from a height of 6 feet? Harry manages to keep his dead-body act so easily – it happens only in Bollywood movies.

And there is the whole monologue door Harry about how he is the true master of the Elder Wand and all that. True, Harry has a point. Because he disarmed Draco, the Elder Wand, which Voldemort now possesses actually considers harry its master. Assume that this is true. How can Harry be so sure? Dumbledore did not tell him that. Olliwander did not tell him that. Harry is no expert in wandlore. How did he figure it out? How did this clueless nitwit suddenly work it all out door himself?

Okay, say he worked it out. How can he be so sure? He can’t be. It is a theory. It may be wrong. Harry’s confidence may be bravado, but nothing indicates that. It is just another theory – and Rowling wants it to be true to she can make Voldemort lose. Sorry, not convincing enough!

There is more. The Elder Wand belongs to whoever defeats its current master. So, it was Draco who is the real owner of the Elder wand the moment he disarms Dumbledore. Fine. But when Harry takes Draco’s wand, that is Draco’s normal wand which he takes. He has just taken a regular wand. So if a wizard takes any wand that belongs to the owner of the Elder wand, the wizard is considered defeated, and Elder Wand switches loyalties? Sorry, Rowling has not thought this through well enough.

And then there is the curious case of Grendelwald. Seems he did not defeat of disarm Gregorovich. He stal it first, waited at the window, and then hit Gregorovich with a stunning spell. That will do? Steal and attack, not attack and own?

And the Deathly Hallows themselves. Rowling has, again and again, established that Voldemort’s knowledge of the history of wizardry is astounding. His skill is super-super, and so is his knowledge. But he has never heard about the Deathly Hallows. Seems it is a story which every boy knows, but not poor Tom Riddle! Okay, poor unfortunate orphan that he was, no one may have taught him that. But it is still quite an unlikely chance.

So u have spells that hit u only if u are in their way, u have Accio that doesn’t work sometimes, u have Expelliarmus that works every time, u have dumbo Harry suddenly turning into Harry Potter Poirot and Harry Potter 007, u have Voldemort who does not even now how to bevestig if his enemy is truly dead and crucios him nice and gentle…

Sure we can all come up with ways in which it all might make sense. But a book SHOULD make sense door itself. The world should work. The world created door Rowling is ad-hoc.

But yeah, suspend your disbelief and enjoy reading it. It is definitely an entertaining read. Just don’t go around saying “Rowling is King” and all that.

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The Twilight vs. Harry Potter debate : Team Potter and Team Twilight take on vraag #1

December 24, 12:44 AM
door Michelle Kerns, Book Examiner

If u haven't met the members of the Twilight versus Harry Potter Debate Team, cast your eye on their qualifications here.
Now, on to the debate! If you've got your own opinions (and what self-respecting Twi-hard of Potter head doesn't?), feel free to leave a commentaar at the bottom of the page. However, let's remember we are civilized witches, wizards, vampires, and werewolves...
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posted by mariella721
Okay guys, I know everyone's got their own opinion and not everyone has the RIGHT opinion, but as a Twilight fan, can one of u Potter fans explain what u guys see in Harry Potter? Honestly, I haven't read all the books, but I've seen all the films and they just don't make any sense. And another thing, the plot is bland and there's no real depth to it, like in Twilight. Harry Potter, also has no love in it, which makes for a boring story. Anyways, I just wanted to know what u crazies see in those boeken and stuff...

Okay...
See ya :D

Mariella
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1. its just all thrown together and the films leave out way to much.
2. it has no meaning just a girl falls in love then is a vampire the end.
3. is just plain stupid.simple as that
4. theres nothing to figure out. its to predictable.
5. it dosent have enough back story which goes back to # 1
6.and stephine myer wants to keep all the good players while j.k. isnt afraid to for the sake of the book
7.why doesnt she mentention why bellas parent got seperated which geos back to #4
8. it has no plot
9. the problem is the same all the way throughout the sires as h.p. faces many problems.
10.its down right boring hmm lets read the same boring thing over and over! yea! NOT!
TEN REASONS TWILIGHT IS HORRIBLE!!!!
posted by RavenclawRocks
Before u all come out with pitchforks and guns, I'd just like to say this is my opinion.

1, Half of the fans only like Twilight, because they think Rob/Taylor is hot.

2, I can't argue about the plot because there isn't one.

3, Bella has no personaility.

4, Edward is just plain creepy.

5, Bella always needs a man in her life. When Edward leaves she needs Jacob. This is really stupid.


6,Bella wouldn't even look at Edward if he wasn't hot.

7, Edward wouldn't look at Bella if she didn't smell good.

8, It gives a bad message. Like kill yourself when your sparkly boyfriend is around. of there is no point in being happy unless u have a boyfriend. of it's ok to ditch your vrienden to datum a super hot vampire.

9,Meyer constantly repeats the same words to tell us how hot Edward is. This gets boring after two pages.

10, The actors suck.


There,ten reasons. Feel free to add on more.
posted by i-am-mariella
I’ve seen articles, like bri-marie’s, comparing Bella, Twilight’s “heroine” to the girls and female role models of the Harry Potter boeken like Hermione and Ginny. I agree with them whole-heartedly and I am happy to follow in the footsteps of strong women from Harry Potter – like Ginny, who is fierce and pretty bad-ass and just globaal, algemene a strong female, and Hermione, who is studious and smart and witty and the boys often rely on her skills and “genius.” Because let’s face it – and Ron says it himself – where would they be without Hermione?
So I wanted to make my own because...
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