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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the dag pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, of what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal japon, jurk and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps meer realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then u check out the DP club on Fanpop, and u find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The bron of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that u find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced of too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is meer critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does toon a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, of how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often zei that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, of impossibly positive. We need something meer convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fans the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down door the titel of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal titel of other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The meer I think about it, the meer I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, u don't need to be a princess to save the dag of to be someone important of worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, u think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" of "Yeah, the princess titel is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then toon us that zei character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recent videos and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fans can have such opposing aantal keer bekeken on other characters, like Ariel of Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued door other fans.
I held a countdown if who would Snow White liked the most, and to e honest, the results were not suprising at all. Here are the results and what people had to say. This countdown was held before Merida was official, so she is not on here.

9. jasmijn

This was definitely the most obvious choice for Snow White's least favourite princess. They are opposite in almost every single way; Snow is innocent, jasmijn is not. Snow is calm and reserved, while jasmijn is loud and aggressive. Snow White would not like of understand Jasmine's harsh and flirty behaviour, while jasmijn would be annoyed by...
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 I didn't know what to put here...
I didn't know what to put here...
Hello! Thanks for bothering to click on my artikel : ) I’ve been on the spot for a couple of months now and I think it’s time that I write an article. I’ve only every written one artikel before this, so forgive me if it’s not that good. I hope that u enjoy it. I just have to say that I like each of the princesses, and I’ve written why I like and dislike each of them. This is my opinion so please respect it, I don’t really like getting rude of nasty antwoorden (I end up crying so please don’t drive me to that) but constructive criticism is most definitely welcome and your very free...
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 The queen should've seen these other girls, she would've had a fit!
The queen should've seen these other girls, she would've had a fit!
This lijst is so hard because every princess is unique and pretty in their own way. Also, I still haven't really figured out how to add pictures, so please don't hold it against me!

10. Snow White

Aww, Snow! I really didn't want to put her last. She is just so sweet looking and it's just so perfect! I feel like her looks match her personality 100%. Sadly, compared to the other princesses she just doesn't do anything for me....but I'm sure if we'd come back to her in two of three years after she's matured she'd be beautiful.

9. Tiana

I really love Tiana! On the surface she looks really good, but...
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 Other than Mulan's dress being in a different color these are the afbeeldingen I'll be using for this artikel
Other than Mulan's dress being in a different color these are the images I'll be using for this article
Compared to most of u I love ALL of the redesigns of the princesses, but I do have a lijst of the best redesigns too so here's my lijst :)

10. Cinderella

When I first saw this redesign I was thinking "Is this Cinderella?", I mean look at her, how many similarities can u find between the way she looked in the movie to this design? Only a few I guess, but that doesn't stop me from loving this redesign, the hairstyle is a HUGE improvement from the awful bun she had before, the dress is very pretty, but like most other people I think she looks almost too much like Barbie, but not to an extent...
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 hips are way to hipster, so is a good personality, songs, a man.....
hips are way to hipster, so is a good personality, songs, a man.....
I think we all know that hips don't lie. They clearly will toon u a good princess from a bad one. I for one, really think hips deserve meer recognition because they make of break a princess. So yeah, let's start with the hip mania. *I'd leave now, this artikels gonna be pretty intense*

10. Ariel

Ariel's hips are the biggest liars I've ever met! They walk in like, whaddup I got some big scales, and walks out with human hips. (Did u see that pop culture reference, I'm like the movie Hercules) It's like, whoa. What. Just. Happened. I'm just gonna stop right here because Ariel's hips are almost...
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Quick descriptions for each placements. Hopefully it doesn't confuse you, tell me if so, I'll never do this again. If it's fine then I invite u to do this type of article.




10th Movie: Pocahontas
I have so many issues with this movie, I just cannot ignore the flaws. Though I love the animation, the score and the ending.

10th Princess: Aurora
Poor Aurora, I like her but her lack of screen time always puts her in disadvantage.

10th Prettiest: Snow White
Perhaps if she was older, she'd rank up but I'm just not a fan of her look to be honest. Though her lips are lovely.





9th Movie: Snow White and...
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Hi everybody! My past artikels are only lists and informations about the princesses, now u will know my opinions about them.

10. Snow White
I really find her so boring. For me, she is not as pretty as the others and her voice sucks. But, the good thing that I like about her is her simplicity and kindness.

9. Aurora
Aurora is a very beautiful princess. But, her personality is really poor. In terms of voice, she is one of my favorites. The only reason that she is higher than Snow White is because of her relationship to Philip.

8. Ariel
Now here is the big deal, in my former lijst she is my number...
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 Which will win?
Which will win?
Before anything else, I want to say that princesslullaby ran the enquêtes and the countdown, I’m just writing the article. So all credit to her.
It seemed that this was a meer difficult countdown than the princess one. There were fewer landslide eliminations and meer instances of people saying they weren’t sure who to vote for, and people in general seemed less certain of their choices. But, here is how people decided to vote. So here are the princes in order of how feminist they are as voted door Fanpop.

10. Charming
Charming does very little in his film. However, everything he did do seemed to...
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Here's another lijst that I wrote meer than a jaar geleden and that I'm now going to update, compared to the favoriete DP films lijst this lijst isn't so different from the original one.

10. Mulan & Shang (previous rank: #10, stayed the same)
This is not a couple, these two are just best vrienden and neither where ready to get married, now I'm basing this only on the first movie, they don't really get into a serious relationship like the other couples do (yes even the couples with little screentime has meer serious relationships than these two).

9. jasmijn & Aladdin (previous rank: #9, stayed...
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posted by jainabieber7
I'll be starting a hair style competition soon in the polls! It will be similar to the outfit one we currently have going on. I want to make sure I get all of them for all the original DP films (no sequels). Different hair styles means anytime their hair looks different. For example, if Ariel has a bloem in her hair that is considered a hair style. So I need help finding them! Leave pictures of ones u find so I can make sure I get them all. of a lijst of maybe all your favoriete princess' hair styles. Everyone is welcome to help. I appreciate it.

Thank you!
xoxo, Jaina :)
posted by GreatLance_30
The characters themselves, despite appearing in separate films, have distinct similarities. The princesses toon good will towards all creatures, evidenced door the common ability to commune with animals. The princesses are known for their inner and outer beauty as well as having beautiful singing voices.

Each princess has a romance that is resolved door the end of her debut film; the male counterparts known as "Disney Princes". These charismatic girls carry a similar personality in their eras, in the beginning with the first three (Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora), their characteristics were...
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 Aurora as Jasmine, credit goes to Azaleasdolls.com
Aurora as Jasmine, credit goes to Azaleasdolls.com
I decided to start this fan-fiction too because my other one didn't recieve any commentaren so I hope on that this one recieves meer comments, anyway here we go and I'll lay it up like this: In this part we'll hear Aurora's story and in the volgende part we'll hear Jasmine's story, in both of the cases just parts of it because these stories will be in parts so I hope you'll enjoy this, but could u do me a favor? The volgende part will be the first part of Jasmine's story and I haven't found a picture of her dressed as Aurora yet so could u zoek for a picture of that of give me a link to a picture...
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Favorite/Ranking/What I think... about the Disney Princesses
    This is my first article. Something u should know is when it comes to Disney and non-Disney movies, characters, ect. I am very optimistic, very rarely critical to find fault, and take into account all films (sequels, tv shows, clips, ect.) and books. I think it adds to form a meer well rounded idea of the characters.
    My beschrijving of each princesses placement is my view on them and why I like them. Seeing as I don't dislike any of them there isn't any negative reason why they are in...
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My little sister, she's nine years old, is really into Disney Princess and she's been bugging to me let her do this all week. So If u want to see a child's perspective of the princesses, here u go. My writing is plain, her's is in bold.

10.Snow White
She's my #10 because her voice is very annoying. And I think she's really dumb but still think she's interesting.

9.Aurora
Aurora is this low because half of the movie she is sleeping but she is still very pretty and charming.

8.Cinderella
Cindrella is my #8 because she stays with her step family even when they treat her like crap.

7.Rapunzel
I really...
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When I was faced with the decision of what to play during my wedding, it was easy- Disney love songs. I wanted to incorporate Disney into my wedding (which is in December), but not have it be in-your-face of cheesy, so that was my decision. (I'm also having a glass slipper as a cake topper.) :) So while planning my list, I realized that I have very specific favorieten when it comes to DP love songs, so I thought I'd share them with you. Enjoy!

10) A Whole New World



Man, does this song get on my nerves. I’m sure it was groundbreaking when Aladdin was released, but this song is so cliché...
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posted by JNTA1234
 "Romance will always be so new and love will save the day..."
"Romance will always be so new and love will save the day..."
One thing for sure about Disney they know how to do romance. So I'm counting down my favoriete DP couples.

10.Aladdin and Jasmine
Aladdin is my #1 and jasmijn is my #2 but together they're my #10. Does that make sense? Yeah, I never gotten the sense of True Love between them. Their relationship seems very physical in my opinion, like they're just two kids in high school messing around. The way jasmijn zei "I love you" seemed very half assed to me. Don't get me wrong, I love Aladdin and Jasmine, they're my childhood heroes, but I don't think they're in love.

9.Tiana and Naveen
Another mismatched...
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Snow White-Ellen Page

Cinderella-Scarlett Johannson

Aurora-Dianna Agron

Ariel-Emma Stone

Belle-Emmy Russom

Jasmine-Freida Pinto

Pocahontas-Naya Rivera

Mulan-Brenda Song

Tiana-Rihanna (I only put her here because everyone else thinks so for some reason)

Rapunzel-Amanda Seyfried
I'm going to try my very hardest to keep this short and sweet, as anyone who has read my other artikels knows I have a tendency to ramble. :)

10. Snow White

I'm so sorry Snow! :( I'm not the biggest fan of Snow's wardrobe. Her rags are oddly flattering but horribly faded, and don't do much justice to Snow. The primary colour dress is sweet and iconic, and even though I do love it, it can only work on the one and only fairest in the land. I do love Snow White's bows though, I'm a big fan of bows in general.

 Classic and iconic, just like Snow herself.
Classic and iconic, just like Snow herself.


9. Pocahontas

Yeesh, two of my my...
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posted by sweetie-94
After a while the food was finished and the girls sat down to eat the lovely spaghetti carbonara that Mary had made. All of them loved it!

After they where finished Mary told them about some ideas about what the first episode would be about and they decided that it was going to be about the husbands of each of the princesses since all of them where married.

Mary asked the girls if anyone of them wanted to make dessert and only Tiana and Snow White seemed interested, but since Tiana owned a resturant and made real food Snow White was going to make the dessert and she made gooseberry pie. Everyone...
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Since I did a Disney Princess ranking, I thought I'd do a Disney Prince ranking also. I've switched from using a pencil to a ballpoint pen. My drawing skill has vastly improved since my Disney Princess ranking, so I really don't miss the ability to erase mistakes.

10. John Smith
 "You think that, only because u don't know any better"
"You think that, only because u don't know any better"

John Smith is heroic and handsome, but I find his dialog cheesy. meer importantly, I just don't care for his attraction to Pocahontas. She's beautiful, but what does he see in her other than that? John Smith and Pocahontas are oil and water. They...
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