More like it was one the best Glee moments EVER. Finn was so out of line it's insane.

My thoughts exactly! Probs in my top ten Glee scenes so far. :D

Not really sure what but a friend of mine has a mom that gets mad like that and even though Finn WAS WAYYYYYYYYYYY outta line It was still too awkward. :/

Muahaha take that Finn you deserve it for being such an ass to my Kurt!!

^Exactly!
Finn was so out of line, he deserved that.

Finn was being a JACKASS and coming from someone whose best friend is gay I really really HATED him for that.I seriously was about to cry no lie :(

That was completely needed and my favorite scene of the episode.

I totally agree that Finn was out of line, but the 'not in my house' part was just crap. He doesn't want to be in your house, idiot.

^That doesn't matter, he is still in his house!
Finn was being very ungrateful, especially since he was going to be eventually getting his own room.
Burt is not an idiot for defending his son!

I'm torn on this one, honestly. On the one hand, yes it is wonderful that he stood up for his son and terrible that Finn used that word in ANY context. However, I do think that Kurt pushed him to it and that the whole scenerio was uncomfortable and unfair for Finn, contradicting the entire episode message that you should be who you are, no matter what people try to force you to be.

If you are straight, imagine being forced to share a bedroom with a member of the same sex who clearly has the hots for you. If you are gay, imagine that same but the opposite sex. Now, imagine them redecorating your supposedly shared bedroom into something that you HATE and would obviously hate. Then, imagine that person verbally attacking you and accusing you of being intolerant and cruel because of all these events.

I think my immediate response would be something angry and hateful that I would regret later. I also think that other person would deserve some sort of berating, equal if not greater than my berating.

His own room in a house that isn't a home to him, with people who are not his family. Burt was right for defending his son, but telling him he had to leave? He thinks that's bad, some sort of thread? The poor, confused teenage boy just wants his life back. I can't blame him.

"I thought you were different."

Oh, get over it, Burt. Kurt isn't Finn's little baby boy.

I agree with you Ducky94.

Burt thought Finn was different from the guys who called him and harassed him just saying "Your son is a fag" and then hanging up. He thought that Finn would show respect for Kurt since they were about to be family.

Kurt might not have decorated it to Finn's style, but he was at least making an effort to make him feel a little more at home.

Finn is the one who needs to get over it, his mom found happiness and wants to share her life and make a new family and he is upset because it isn't the house he lived in. GET OVER IT! Families move all the time, a lot of kids join families after their parent gets divorced. His mom is the adult and should get to make the decision of where they live, not Finn.

I wouldnt let anyone stay in my house if they called my son a fag. Thats disrespectful to the members of the family who do consider that place their home. Yeah sure Finn was put in a situation he wouldnt like to be in but that did not give him a right to call Kurt out on being gay like that. I nearly broke down on that scene and I wanted to punch Finn so effin bad.



^^Shandiii, preach(:

he kept calling him faggy!! thats like the 'r' word!! and the 'n' word!! i mean my school JUST had a fundraiser to bye t-shirts that see R.I.P 'R' rest in peace..its to put that word to rest, best buddies made a HUGE profit!! everyone bought one, it was really nice/cool to see... :)

I understand why Finn is so angry; he has been forced to move out of his home into another house, so he has every right to be angry. Finn is not the type to insult people, so he probably did not realize what he was saying.

However, I was glad to see Burt stand up for his son. He has had a difficult time accepting Kurt's sexuality, so this was a huge step for him. This also proved to Kurt that his father really does love him.

I love Burt. Like a lot.

Finn totally deserved it!

i dont blame finn.. i mean, kurt didmt have to hit on him all the time and b creepy..and take the money to redecorate! but it WAS bad for finn to call him a fag! but imagine if u were in his place dorming with some1 of ur sex who was gay/lesbian and u didnt kno them too well :/

Some of these responses are kind of ridiculous. Wow.
Okay, so Kurt has a crush on Finn. That gives Finn a reason to be a complete asshole because...?

Every scene that Mr. Hummel is in he never fails to impress me. What a fantastic parent in every freaking way. I only grow to adore him. Finn was being an absolute asshole.

I also adore how Glee addressed "fag" or calling something "gay". A lot of people use it so lightly to describe things they don't like......but nobody stops to think about what they are actually saying when they say that.

Finn defiantly deserved it what he said was so uncalled for and Kurt dad is over protective of Kurt on this issues Finn did make up for it at the end sticking up for him.

@courtney7488, I don't mean to be rude here, but are you kidding me? Finn definitely knew what he was saying. He may be an idiot, but he has a concept of what an insult is. There's absolutely no way he didn't know that he was hurting Kurt.

This may be hard to believe, but I used to LOVE Finn. A lot. Until the back nine, he was one of my favorite characters. However, his constant whining and hypocrisy has driven me to despise him. I had a little hope that maybe, just maybe one day I would get my love for him back, but after tonight's episode, no way. Using that word is not okay with me. It doesn't matter than Finn was already my least favorite character, if Rachel had said it, I would have been absolutely pissed at her. Screw you, Finn. I hate you forever.

Way to go, Burt.

I was so rooting for Burt - despite the tears that entire scene gave me! Finn was way out of the line. MY GOD, I just wanted to slap him. I'm glad someone (Burt) defended Kurt and gave Finn a good lecture - a well deserved one at that.

I'm glad Mr. Hummel has accepted Kurt & is willing to stand up for him.

However, I think he went overboard. Finn obviously didn't want to be in his house. Kurt pushed him to the breaking point.

I'm not going to try and explain why I don't think Finn is to blame for this, because I don't think any of you would want to hear it. He's just one of those characters I'll love no matter what, and I'll leave it at that.

When Finn was getting all angry I was thinking "oh god I would so kick him out if i was Kurt's dad" and then he came in and yelled the crap out of him. Go Burt Hummel! Totally agreed with everything he said. It needed to be done to get through Finn's thick skull.

Scene PWND in so many levels, almost teared up with Kurt's face at the end of it.

I understand that the situation was uncomfortable for Finn and that Finn had a point when he said that Kurt hadn't accepted the fact that he wasn't gay, but there were like 100 better ways to communicate it all than the way he did. Go Mr Hummel for being there for your son when he needed you the most!

I'm not renowned for my sensitivity and I do use words like fag or retard or others of the sort, because even though I'm 21 I still have the maturity of an 8 year old and I like to joke and be edgy with those words (pathetic or what LOLOLOL). But to say those words with that seriousness and hate and rage and to someone who can be hurt by them? No, just no, Finn.

Obviously, Finn is not actually a homophobe, but he has been raised among that still not dead homophobic portion of society, the one that still thinks that anything even remotely feminine in a guy is disgusting and demeaning. Hate that strong and blind can be contagious, especially coming from people who you have to cooperate with in any way (in Finn's case, these are his teammates on football, and I assume they were sort of buddies before Finn joined Glee club). You gotta watch out Finn, we know it's not your strongest suit but don't get stupid when following the mob.

My SECOND favorite scene this episode. Oh how I love Burt♥

Seriously I agree with Burt shouting because of what he saw from his point of view but at the same time Kurt really had been pushing Finn there for a while now.

You can say something when your angry to lash out and not really mean it and that's what happened here. Finn had just been pushed and pushed by Kurt, who's been pushing and pushing to get what he wants then complaining & crying when it doesn't work out exactly his way.

I understand Finn not wanting to live there, and not wanting Kurt liking him, but I don't think it justifies his behaviour. If he'd just snapped and told Kurt to back off or gone off on one about how he didn't want to live there it would be different (even I've wanted to tell Kurt to back off with this stupid plot, and I really like Kurt. I think the writing of this plot has been all over the place. Kurt likes Finn. Kurt understands he has no chance. Kurt decides to trick them into being roomies. Kurt changes his mind because he's hurt his dad gets on better with Finn. Kurt apparently changes his mind back, and is happy they'll live together. The writing has been schizophrenic on this plot imo). Finn didn't yell at Kurt for liking him though, he called him 'faggy'. There's a difference. That made Finn's insults about Kurt way more cruel and personal, it made them about his sexuality rather than about annoyance at an unrequited crush. What he said was way below he belt. Like can you imagine if rather than Kurt with an unrequited crush it had been Mercedes, and in the same situation Finn had called her the n word? It would be terrible and no amount of annoying build up would (or does) justify going the hateful route when confronting the issue in my opinion. At least Finn seemed to realise he'd been an ass, because for me sometimes Finn lacked self awareness when he'd done wrong. The end of this episode was good character development for him I think, even if I'm still kind of annoyed at him.

I was really pleased with Burt, he was awesome. I really loved that scene and I thought all three actors involved played their parts incredibly.

Yay! That was amaing!

This episode Finn was the biggest asshole ever.
How big his sexual complex must be to have to proove your own sex in every single moment & every possible way, becaouse otherwise you feel unworthy? It was so pathetic...

Mr Hummel had his bast action here!

Finn's words were hurtful but they were also realistic and he realized his mistakes and tried to make amends for them. Kurt is worthy of a little blame too though. He was being manipulative and pushy in the previews episodes and that`s why I think Finn snapped at him.

They words he used though... he got so out of line this time and Burt had all the right to defend his son.

mermaid-tale, loveliesandlust, oldmovie, i agree with u 100% ;D

I only wanted to add, please send a Father Of The Year Award to Burt :P

Seriously I agree with Burt shouting because of what he saw from his point of view but at the same time Kurt really had been pushing Finn there for a while now.

You can say something when your angry to lash out and not really mean it and that's what happened here. Finn had just been pushed and pushed by Kurt, who's been pushing and pushing to get what he wants then complaining & crying when it doesn't work out exactly his way.

Agreed.

Now, I'm just going to flat out explain how I feel about this and hope that I don't get attacked.

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I hate intolerance. I can't stand people that act as if being gay is a disease or a sin or something. I cringed when Finn was calling things "faggy", BUT and this is a very big but - I DO get where he was coming from. He should NOT have used that word, but look at how Kurt was acting.

Finn has been really great at not making a big deal about how often Kurt fucking stares at him like a piece of meat. He's never been mean or cruel in any way to Kurt. But come the fuck on! Not only is he being forced to live in a house he isn't comfortable with, he's being FORCED to share a room with a boy that is clearly highly infatuated with him and refuses to accept that Finn is straight.

Don't tell me that if YOU had to share a room with someone, be it a girl sharing a room with a bi-sexual/lesbian girl that crushed on them, a guy sharing a room with a bi-sexual/gay guy that crushed on the,, or even just a guy/girl sharing a room with a member of the opposite sex that crushed on them... can you honestly tell me that if they behaved the way Kurt behaves to Finn, you would be 100% comfortable and okay with that?

Mr. Hummel was amazing in that scene.♥

I like Finn but he was being a jerk and someone needed to tell him off.

Finn fucking PWNS.

Kurt needs to stop trying to push himself on someone who is obviously STRAIGHT.
It's quite pathetic, and annoying.

Burt completely overreacted.

Kurt practically forced Finn to be rude to him.
Finn tried to be nice for QUITE a while. So I think Kurt got exactly what he deserved.

i agree with a lot of you guys.... and i hope finn-die-hard-haters aren't gonna attack me for saying this and i know some of you guys really don't wanna hear my opinion but you had yours so i can get mine....
here we go...

okayy i'll be honest- Finn was pissing me off the whole episode, he has this firey temper that is annoying and has him do things he regrets. I was flinching when Finn was calling Kurt's stuff "faggy" and i found it offense to Kurt because i adore Kurt. But also, this whole season with Finn and Kurt scenes Finn hasn't been the only one pissing me off..... Kurt's been quite an Ass with a capital A too! i mean come ON! hes one little decieving boy!!

First, he has a huge crush on Finn, and like what Finn said, "you don't think i see how flirty you get with me?" it would creep me out i know that! and Kurt the whole season has been totally infatuated with Finn and has been staring at him, and Finn has been pretty cool with it, protecting him from football jerks, helping him make the football team, not to mention "Umm... sorry i already have a date to prom..." haha. And then, suddenly Kurt is fixing his dad up with finn's mom? and don't make me laugh saying it wasnt... it was purely a selfish move on his part- wanted to move in with Finn maybe even to turn him gay... and then you know it was selfish when he says to his dad once Burt was in love that he didn't want them together because his dad stopped paying attention for him and he tried to break them up.

Then, he gets all lovey-dovey with finn, his infatuation gets EVEN WORSE!!! they move in and Kurt just INSISTS that they share a room and then redecorates it to HIS liking and gets all touchy feely with finn- but i must say that finn overreacts ALOT!!! especially with that type of stuff... so i'm not totally team finn here i'm kindof undecided.... i ask you fellow gleeks to put differences aside and take a walk in Finn's shoes here... and see how you would like it... and if you say "i wouldn't have reacted like that.." thats a filthy LIE and we all know it... sure most of us wouldn't have reacted so strongly however. Finn and his anger issues piss me off...

Now down to Burt yelling at Finn! I was glad for this!! he stood up to his son!! good for him!!! i was so happy for that!! but the whole "you don't GET to live here" i'm like WTF?? HAVEN'T YOU BEEN PAING ATTENTION?? FINN DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE!!! so i was confused there... and Finn should've redeemed himself in that last minutes, dressing up like lady gaga and accepting kurt for who he was again... which kurt has issues excepting finn for who he is also... and standing up for kurt... that was awesome..

so a summary... LOVE LOVE LOVE Burt standing up for his son, felt bad for Kurt being insulted by finn, but he needs to stop being so pushy... mad at finn for going off at kurt for a sensitive issue, but feeling bad for him becuase how he has had no decisions on this.

Even though Kurt might have been coming on a little to strong, he was trying to help. Burt told Finn and Kurt to share a room for only awhile untill he fixes up a room for him opr whatever. Yes Kurt might have been excited at first but after the wiping off make up scene, Kurt looked really pissed off at Finn.

Finn, FOR THE FIRST TIME, told Kurt that he didn't like him like that. Whenever Kurt flirted with him before Finn kind of ignored it (Ballads/locker confronation scene). But he told him to back off in the worse way possible. He can't say those things and not get yelled at or some sort of punishment. Finn deserved that speech except maybe the "you can't stay here anymore." I was shocked and even Kurt looked it too. Burt had every right to get upset. Especially after the crap people put Kurt and him through because of Kurt's sexuality. But hopeuflly they will all forgive eachother after what happened in the ending scene. yay for Kurt/Finn friendship (:

Overall; Burt Hummel aka Papa Bear, was amazing.

Let's just say this was the only good part of the episode

I'm rewatching the episode and thought I needed to point out that Finn doesn't call Kurt a fag or 'faggy' - if you go to about 26:30 in the episode, you'll see that he's talking about a lamp and something on the couch. Just sayin'.

I completely agree with JimmyManceLuvr and xoheartinohioxo. Finn should never have used the word faggy, but I completely understand why he would feel so uncomfortable. As a straight female, I definitely would not be comfortable sharing a room with a guy who obviously fancied me. I would absolutely get changed in a different room, come on. ESPECIALLY if I was sharing because the guy got our parents together to make us closer. Finn overreacted and should not have used that word, but surely Kurt would know nothing good would come out of him blatantly getting their parents together just to get close to Finn, who will never like him like that.

@DarkSarcasm The insult was still directed at Kurt. Like if he was in a girl's room I don't believe for a second he'd have used that word. It came to his mind because he thought Kurt's things were 'faggy', and between the jocks and Kurt's actions, which I'm not saying were fair or sane btw, Finn was uncomfortable wth Kurt's sexuality (or rather, with being exposed to or associated with it). He knew who he was talking to and how it would be taken when he said it. Burt even acknowledges Finn said it at the lamp but like he said 'you use that word, you're talking about him'. I keep going back to my 'what if it were Mercedes' thing, if he'd described something she owned using the n word (especially while yelling at her) I don't think anyone would care whether it was directed at her or one of her belongings. That's just why it didn't matter to me what he said it at though (I sometimes think I come across sounding kind of debate-y about Finn/glee when I don't intend to)

i find it so hard to pick a side because there both my favourat characters, but i think kicking him out the house was a bit over the top

Finn fucking PWNS.

Kurt needs to stop trying to push himself on someone who is obviously STRAIGHT.
It's quite pathetic, and annoying.

Burt completely overreacted.

Kurt practically forced Finn to be rude to him.
Finn tried to be nice for QUITE a while. So I think Kurt got exactly what he deserved.


HELL YES.

My thoughts exactly! Probs in my top ten Glee scenes so far. :D

HELL.FREAKING.YEAH!

it was awesome for Bart to stand up for his son but I was miffed that no blame was put on Kurt in this mess. Finn over reacted big time but Kurt was pushing for such a long time, anyone would break eventually.

I think I understnad what they were trysng to say with that scene but they went about it sort of wrong for me. because it gave me the feeling that Kurt gets a pass onsome things just because he is gay. and that is as wrong as people picking up on him for it

i dont know i kinda felt bad for finn just a little he kinda deserved it but he was getting yelled at for all the worng reasons he didnt call KURT a fag he was calling the decorations FAGGy i think burt just missunderstood but it still wasnt good