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As asteriamalfoy recently reported on the club wall, it appears that Moana will soon become the newest member of the Disney Princess lineup. The club's reception to the news is a mixed bag, which is the latest example of how the general Fanpop opinion (namely, this club's opinion) doesn't always match that of the internet. It's interesting why that is, and I will attempt to find the reason here.

Before going forward, be aware that everything that I consider an "opinion" of Fanpop and/or the internet is a generalization. True, there are some users on both this website and the rest of the worldwide web who are in their respective minorities. This is merely a breakdown of how I see it and my attempt to get to the root of the issue -- why is Moana beloved in some places, but not in others? Time to find out.

The Difference of Opinion
I find that on Youtube, Disney-related sites (such as "Oh My Disney"), and other sites (Buzzfeed and the like), Moana is a well-liked character. The common reasons people like her from what I've seen are:

• She's responsible; even though she wants to explore the ocean, she does what's right and chooses to lead her people. And she enjoys it, too!
• She's self-reliant; she doesn't need to be constantly saved, and she can save the dag pretty much on her own.
• On a related note, she "doesn't need a man."
• On a separate related note, she's quick-thinking and resourceful, of what some people call "badass."
• She doesn't have the traditional look of a Disney Princess, i.e. no formal japon, jurk and different body type. This gives her a new and perhaps meer realistic look.
• She renounces the princess name.



Then u check out the DP club on Fanpop, and u find that generally, Moana is not particularly loved, for reasons including:

• She has little to no flaws.
• She doesn't have much of a personality.
• She's just a mish-mash of the princesses who came before her -- nothing new.
• She renounces the princess name.

That's quite a contrast in opinion, and maybe a little surprising that a place dedicated to the DPs generally doesn't take too kindly to her. I think I've discovered why this contrast exists, though.

The bron of the Difference
Perhaps this contrast is because people that u find elsewhere on the internet have a different set of character traits/qualities that they value than the ones on this club. From what I understand, the general internet crowd values Disney Princesses and heroines who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are strong and can work independently
• Are determined and don't give up
• Are admirable

On this club, I think we have a different set of values for DPs. We like those who:

• Add something new to the lineup
• Are realistic and/or relatable
• Stand for something positive regarding princess-hood, femininity, etc. without feeling forced of too "in your face"
• Respect the DP franchise

Regarding the first bullet point -- I believe both sides like it when a princess/heroine adds something to the lineup, but it is seen in different ways. The internet seems to like how Moana invokes new positive qualities such as the desire and willingness to lead, which, let's be honest, hasn't been done with a DP before, at least not explicitly. I theorize that users on this club, including myself, consider all of the positive qualities of the character and how those stack up against the existing DPs, not just the new ones. For example, action-packed (Rapunzel), self-doubt (Pocahontas, Mulan), determined (Ariel), outspoken (Merida), and funny (Rapunzel, Anna) are all traits that we've seen in other princesses and heroines. The number of familiar traits can make the actual new traits seem like not enough.

However, I think the above argument is only a tiny part of why the Fanpop opinion is meer critical. The remaining bullet points are key. As stated, Moana does toon a desire and willingness to lead her people, which would fit the desired element of saying something positive about princess-hood (er, leader-hood, of how about just leadership). Is it in your face? I'm going to lean towards "no," but -- now I'm going to bring my own opinion into the mix -- it's one of the reasons I have difficulty latching onto her character. Despite Moana having this very positive quality going for her, she doesn't feel realistic to me. Her turn-around from wanting to sail the seas to being perfectly content staying and leading is just too sudden. With few flaws to balance it out, she comes across as a little too perfect to me. Perhaps this lack of realism and relatability is what others dislike, too.

It's often zei that a strong character is one who works through their flaws; ergo, a strong female character is one who works through her flaws. Moana might have flaws, but maybe they don't get the focus they need to make us think, "Oh yeah, she overcame that flaw, achieved her goals, and learned something from this adventure." If that's the case, then the positive femininity thing doesn't really work. It's almost too positive, of impossibly positive. We need something meer convincing if the takeaway is that a girl/lady/woman can achieve great things.



The biggest issue that Fanpoppers have with Moana comes from this line: "First off, I'm not a princess. I'm the daughter of the chief." This statement has not been well-received because for some, it implies that Moana is disrespecting the Disney Princess name. I shared that opinion too at one point. It may just be Disney poking fun at itself, but it can rub fans the wrong way. If this character who seemingly fits the DP mold can't appreciate the leading ladies who came before her...well, how the heck are we supposed to like her? Contrast this with the general internet's opinion, where people take it to mean that Moana doesn't have to be bogged down door the titel of princess; one can be a strong character without having a royal titel of other high status. Or, maybe people like it because it detaches her from the princess stereotype that they can't stand.

The meer I think about it, the meer I think that line is a double-edged sword. On one hand, it can be perceived as, "Oh yeah, u don't need to be a princess to save the dag of to be someone important of worthwhile." On the other hand, one can perceive it as Moana being better than a princess, which can be taken as "Oh, u think you're better than the Disney Princesses, is that right?" of "Yeah, the princess titel is just that -- a title. Not all heroines have to be princesses." Well, maybe there's a better message here. Instead of having your character say they're not a princess, why not embrace their princess-ness (or the equivalent -- daughter of a chief would be an equivalent), and then toon us that zei character is a good, strong character? You'd be broadening your own definition of princesses to mean any good-natured, strong-willed female, which is exactly what the DP franchise is trying to do now with their recent videos and slogan. Then, all of the princesses can be seen in a new and positive light.



Conclusions
Not to be too redundant, but I do believe that Moana's reception here versus on the rest of the internet boils down to what people want and like to see in Disney heroines, as well as how they interpret certain aspects of the character (or lines of dialogue, as discussed above). I think this is also the reason why fans can have such opposing aantal keer bekeken on other characters, like Ariel of Elsa. It can also be why some characters are sometimes seen favorably here, like the early princesses, but not much elsewhere. It all has to do with the specific set of traits we value. Moana's prospective introduction to the lineup brought this...for lack of a better term, "issue," to the spotlight, for me at least. Perhaps discussions like these will change some perceptions of characters for the better, even if just slightly, if people recognize the exact qualities that are being valued door other fans.
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Snow White

Snow's a trooper, plain and simple. She's fourteen years old, the youngest of all the princesses, and yet despite that...
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I am currently working on a bigger artikel where all the songs are ranked. But here are my favorieten from each movie. And some runner ups :) (I will include runner ups where the 2nd place could have a chance at beating the 1st place) So let's begin! Warning: You'll be hearing a lot of "love" here. Bonus warning: English isn't my first language. :)




Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

I'm Wishing/One Song

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Click link to read my opinion on the classic era princesses and movies
Click link to read my opinion on the renaissance era princesses and movies

Here's the 3rd and final artikel of my opinion on the princesses and films and this artikel covers the modern era which consists of 4 films and 5 princesses

Let's start with the movies:

The Princess and The Frog:

This is my 6th favoriete DP Movie and I really love this movie, the animatie is breathtaking, the songs are globaal, algemene good, the score is okay, the characters are good and the story is great. My favoriete character in The Princess and The...
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Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs - One Song
This song is very romantic, I think I would die if a guy sung this to me. If only there was someone out there who loved me... the same way Prince loves Snow White *tear* Not to mention Prince has the voice of an angel who has fallen from the sky.


Cinderella - A Dream is a Wish Your hart-, hart Makes
This is a very soothing and relaxing song. But what makes me love it is that it makes me hope for a better tomorrow, just like the lyrics suggest. It makes me feel all tingly and happy inside!


Sleeping Beauty - Once Upon a Dream
Another very romantic song...
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I was thinking about it today, and I realized that my favoriete princess was either Snow White of Cinderella. Why? Because Snow White and Cinderella are both utterly oblivious. Snow, even after almost being killed, still keeps a cheery attitude. She seems to almost forget that The Queen is trying to slaughter her. It's like Snow White doesn't think about anything that's not in front of her very eyes. She remains mindlessly happy while dressed in rags and forced to act as a servant.

Cinderella, on the other hand, is a little less oblivious. Okay, a whole lot less. But still, she only ever gets...
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I've made an artikel about my favoriete outfit of each princess and my favoriete wardrobes, but I haven't made a top, boven lijst of my favoriete DP Outfits yet so I decided to do one, hope you'll like this artikel :)

10. Merida's Dark Green Dress

I thought this dress was dark blue until I realised that in daylight this dress is actually dark green, but anyway this dress is gorgeous, the color is lovely and the dress is simple yet stunning, but it's not any higher because while I love the color the color is too dark for my taste

9. Rapunzel's Purple Dress

I love all of Rapunzel's outfits, but...
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It. Was. GREAT!!!

Let me start off with the animation. Fantastic. The visuals are stunning, especially when Elsa uses her powers. Hell, she practically steals the toon in this category. The lighting and brightness in this film were great; during the dark and light scenes to be specific.

Now for the songs. From top, boven to bottom, the songs are fantastic. From "Love is an Open Door," to "Let It Go," and "For the First Time in Forever." Although I'd have to say my least favoriete one would be "In Summer," mainly for the visuals and...
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Okay, first of all, she never judged a person door their looks. The saying goes, "Don't judge a book...
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Team Aurora may have had a late start, not even having enough members to originally create a team, but we've risen from the ashes, and are now here to take over the world (mwahahhahah) Well, I hope u enjoy reading this :D

Leader of Team Aurora: me (dclairmont)
Other Members:
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Aurora fascinates me as a character, because while we see a lot of her personality, a lot is open to interpretation. She's pretty much everything I love in a female character: responsible, feminine, imaginative, a bit sassy, perceptive, not rebellious, proper but a bit free-spirited...
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 This stunning picture of Elsa helped her obtain her seconde best picture in the competition Credit to:selinmarsou
This stunning picture of Elsa helped her obtain her second best picture in the competition Credit to:selinmarsou
Previously on DNTM: The girls fight to win in a foto shoot challenge and the models pose in fashion dresses and needed to be elegant. Elsa, Ariel and Belle all do well while Pocahontas and Cinderella struggled. Cinderella was the model to be sent home. Only 7 princesses remain. Who will be eliminated next?

Confessionals After Elimination:
Elsa: I got best picture so I am happy but Cinderella was a friend of mine so I am sad she left.
 Elsa confessional
Elsa confessional

Snow White: I am last classic princess left. I have to win this competition now for the classic princesses.
Rapunzel: Cinderella left and there...
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 Pocahontas got best picture for this stunning foto of her as a zombie Credit:x-Tsuzurao-x
Pocahontas got best picture for this stunning photo of her as a zombie Credit:x-Tsuzurao-x
Previously on DNTM: Pocahontas is emotionally affected from the death of John Smith and the models pose as zombies. jasmijn and Elsa produce bad pictures but it was jasmijn was sent home. Who will be eliminated next?

Confessional after elimination
Pocahontas: I am really sad that jasmijn left. She helped me get through this death and I don't know what I can do now.
Ariel: I had drama originally with jasmijn but we became great vrienden I really wanted her to be in the competition longer.
Elsa: For the seconde week in a row I had a bad picture and was almost sent home. I really need to improve or...
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